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TASK: WHO IS WINNING AND WHY?
1. Choose an issue(S) and explain whose idea is stronger and explain WHY.
2. Choose a matter of style of their debating and explain who is stronger and explain WHY.
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HELLO EVERYONE! Have fun watching and blogging. TASK: WHO IS WINNING AND WHY? 1. Choose an issue(S) and explain whose idea is stronger and explain WHY. 2. Choose a matter of style of their debating and explain who is stronger and explain WHY.
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Mr. Mills
10/3/2012 08:37:51 am
If you can not watch a TV, you can stream the debate on nytimes.com.
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Eli Friedman
10/3/2012 11:15:22 am
i would like to burn clean coal?? since when is burning coal clean
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Adina Weisberg
10/3/2012 11:19:43 am
I also didn't understand that "clean coal" comment.
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Priscilla Deng
10/3/2012 11:21:33 am
Same here... How can coal burn clean. It produces carbon, which when used excessively harms our environment.... I feel that Romney is very rude...
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Elizabeth Marcinkiewicz
10/3/2012 11:38:42 am
Yeah I think that didn't really make sense, as far as rudeness I think they're pretty respectful to each other when they agree but when Romney is responding I think he is kind of rude too
Zoe gioia
10/3/2012 11:21:19 am
Obama's whole demeanor is helping him. Romney is noticeably less collected than Obama.
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Phoebe Taylor Vuolo
10/3/2012 11:25:22 am
I agree, also the fact that Romney keeps interrupting poor Jim Lehrer doesn't make him look very good.
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Amanda Lo Duca
10/3/2012 11:30:08 am
Yeah looks like Romney is really directing this debate
Elizabeth Marcinkiewicz
10/3/2012 11:40:28 am
Same here, Obama seems more relaxed in his manner and Romney keeps fighting to get the last word over Obama
Phoebe Taylor Vuolo
10/3/2012 11:22:43 am
i know this is a really small detail, but in terms of debating style, i noticed that Obama keeps mentioning the things that Romney and he agree on. i just thought it was interesting.
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Eli Friedman
10/3/2012 11:25:12 am
yeah that is interesting. Romney is attacking Obama about what Obama says and now Romney is being rude and keeps going back on his tax plans
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Zoe Gioia
10/3/2012 11:23:40 am
Getting tax rates down has proven not to created jobs. It's just more money in the pockets of the business man.
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Kashif Cole
10/3/2012 11:23:53 am
Both candidates did a good job of creating a distinction between their economic plans .
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Phoebe Taylor Vuolo
10/3/2012 11:28:56 am
Exactly that's true, they both were clear about what they think will work! It just comes down to the fact that they have different plans for the economy, and at least if they're being clear and honest, the voters will just pick whichever plan they feel is more suited.
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Klea Dhimitri
10/3/2012 11:24:48 am
Romney has started off well , he has gotten straight to the big issue that has been on everyone's mind: the economy. One example is by pointing out how Obama's policies have not helped the middle class since their median income has decreased,gas prices have risen as well as food prices.
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Phoebe
10/3/2012 11:41:40 am
but wait didn't Jim Lehrer tell them what to speak about first? although that's true that it's the main issue right now.
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Grace Lin
10/3/2012 11:25:33 am
Only 25 min. into the debate and their still on one topic.....
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Eli Friedman
10/3/2012 11:28:48 am
they are going over time it was supposed to be a 15min segment that is still going on 28min in
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Katie Waka
10/3/2012 11:25:41 am
Romney is focused on adding more jobs, but his approach does not make any sense. It just benefits the upper classmen, not the middle class which is the majority.
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Zoe Gioia
10/3/2012 11:26:26 am
The moderator is also sick of Romney
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Tyler Rock
10/3/2012 11:28:25 am
I am actually amused watching Romney trying to get what he wants to say in. He looks just a bit anxious.
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Priscilla Deng
10/3/2012 11:29:19 am
If there was a like button I would click it. But sadly there is none.
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Hannah Nelson
10/3/2012 11:26:59 am
I don't know if I agree with Romney saying that his plan is nothing that has been tried before
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Gaby
10/3/2012 11:29:03 am
I agree, it all sounded familiar to me.
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Kashif
10/3/2012 11:27:27 am
i thought the reference to Donald Trump was funny
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Adnan
10/3/2012 11:29:50 am
Ha i thought so too, it also shows that these small businesses Romney says he'll support are already run by million and billionaires
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Michael
10/3/2012 11:33:39 am
Big Bird was funny too
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Paulina G.
10/3/2012 11:35:48 am
I agree with you all. Obama seems to be backing up his point more and Romney is more reinstating his ideas. Obama is more in favor for the middle class and doing things that would benefit the whole country. Romney is in favor of creating jobs and helping small businesses thrive whereas, Obama wants to lower tax rates (and is trying to lower) and provide more education and boosting natural gas production.
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Amanda Lo Duca
10/3/2012 11:28:47 am
I agree with Romney when he mentioned that economy is going nowhere and has decreased but he wants to get rid of PBS !?
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Paulina
10/3/2012 12:45:06 pm
Yeah, I didn't get this program cutting at all.
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Katie Waka
10/3/2012 11:29:11 am
I feel like Romney is just repeating himself. He's just going in a whole circle and recycling his words.
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Iana Vasilov
10/3/2012 11:57:56 am
i agree with Katie. Romney stated his main points in the beginning of the debate and now he is just repeating himself. He is not introducing new arguments anymore.
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Zoe
10/3/2012 11:29:21 am
We live in a country which has the biggest defense spending. I'm waiting for someone to suggest cutting spending there.
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Adnan
10/3/2012 11:31:24 am
And yet he wants to pay another seven trillion dollars to the military that they didn't even ask for.
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Grace
10/3/2012 11:33:58 am
It makes no sense.
Eli Friedman
10/3/2012 11:31:05 am
about time someone adressed medicare and medicaid. how will Romney react is the question. btw with debate style Obama is giving facts and statistics while Romney has just been saying "this is what i really want"
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Adina Weisberg
10/3/2012 11:33:29 am
It also sounds like Obama is just making more sense than Romney. His plans are more realistic while Romney keeps on exaggerating things.
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Amanda Lo Duca
10/3/2012 11:34:30 am
Agreed
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Grace
10/3/2012 11:32:16 am
When Obama was told he was over 2 mins. Romney seemed really happy....
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Merin Thazhathukunnel
10/3/2012 11:32:26 am
I feel like both candidates are repeating themselves... but as
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Katie Waka
10/3/2012 11:35:45 am
I agree. Romney is trying to boost the economy but letting the middle class fall just brings us down even more. In order to decline the deficit, he should be focusing on the middle class. (us)
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Eli
10/3/2012 11:32:46 am
Big Bird has met more Latinos than Mitt Romney
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Katie Waka
10/3/2012 11:36:51 am
"I love big bird" -Quote of the day lol
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Michael Molinari
10/3/2012 11:32:54 am
I think that Obama has the lead in matter of style, because he keeps putting Romney back with the views that they had on taxes. Since, they both talk about cuts in each spot they have gone over in the subject in economy, its like they both decided to alter the views they had on it before this debate. Also, I think Obama has the better matter of style because Romney is constantly trying to defend himself on every comment Obams makes.
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Eli
10/3/2012 11:39:25 am
you're right and he (Romney) doesn't seem to respect the thing known as "let someone finish"
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Tyler Rock
10/3/2012 11:33:20 am
I like how Romney pointed out that Obama said 4 years ago that he would cut the deficit in half and now he's saying it again.....
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Hannah
10/3/2012 11:34:39 am
Why did Spain come into this? That seemed kind of random to me...
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Amanda LoDuca
10/3/2012 11:36:53 am
I really don't think that was a really necessary move on Romney's part
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Adina W.
10/3/2012 11:38:37 am
I guess he was just looking for things to say for the heck of saying them.
Klea
10/3/2012 11:38:07 am
I believe It's a reference to the crisis to the euro-zone Greece is buried in debt and seems as Spain will be next. Probably emphasizing how spending may not be the solution when the country is in a serious financial crisis
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Eli
10/3/2012 11:35:02 am
Romney is looking like he is adressing only the guy asking the question, he's not looking at the camera anymore
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Paulina
10/3/2012 11:37:14 am
Education seems to be a key issue for Obama. This is a better choice in creating a better future for America for the next generations to come.
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Adina W.
10/3/2012 11:38:01 am
I think so too.
Merin Thazhathukunnel
10/3/2012 11:42:20 am
yes! education needs more funding and obamas helping people afford and go to college with his tax credit for students
Hannah
10/3/2012 11:36:27 am
I really agree with Obama about not giving tax breaks to big corporations moving jobs overseas because we really need the jobs here.
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Elizabeth
10/3/2012 11:45:03 am
I agree, which is why I don't like the fact that Romney said let's take jobs over to South America
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Grace
10/3/2012 11:37:32 am
I like the way Obama is debating, he gives examples and support to a good deal of the points that his making.
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Emily Mei
10/3/2012 11:37:55 am
Obama's stuttering makes him seem very nervous. Romney seems more confident.
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Grace
10/3/2012 11:40:24 am
I feel like Romney is starting to stutter as well now
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Gaby
10/3/2012 11:42:48 am
Yeah - I also think Romney seems more collected and confident.I feel like Romney is more passionate about what he's saying.
Adina W.
10/3/2012 11:41:30 am
I think Obama is also taking some time to think and choose his words carefully while Romney just talks and talks and talks.
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Priscilla Deng
10/3/2012 11:38:11 am
The textbooks we use at school are pretty old and the classes are pretty full, the U.S. needs to boost up the education!
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Adina W.
10/3/2012 11:40:23 am
I say one way is to stop overcrowding our schools, but I have no idea how that will happen.
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Paulina
10/3/2012 11:40:38 am
I agree with Priscilla. We need more attention on schools and education. There have been too many budget cuts and America is way behind (in terms of other countries) in education.
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Amanda L
10/3/2012 11:41:07 am
Yeah c'mon 42 kids in one classroom somethings gotta be done
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Michael
10/3/2012 11:43:20 am
thats way too many, its hard for the students as well as the teacher with that many kids in a class.
Klea
10/3/2012 11:44:55 am
These are all very good points , but again the question comes down to HOW do we fund these programs , where does the money come from ? The core issue of all the policies discussed in Washington , always comes down to money
Katie Waka
10/3/2012 11:43:59 am
Yeah. Not to mention budget cuts. We're not getting the full education we should be getting. We shouldn't have so many people in our classes. It hurts us as a whole and only hurts us for the future.
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Adelina
10/3/2012 11:45:22 am
I completely agree that education needs to be addressed. Obama keeps mentioning the importance of college tuition and other education issues. These issues need to be addressed because students are facing the consequences of the nation's economic state. And it only seems that Obama is addressing this issue.
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Iana Vasilov
10/3/2012 12:02:42 pm
Education is important, but Obama also said that he wanted to lower the tuition for colleges but i'm not sure how he is going to succeed in that.
Michael
10/3/2012 11:39:55 am
I feel bad for Jim Lehrer...he is constantly getting cut off
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Phoebe
10/3/2012 11:40:01 am
oh hey he just mentioned federalism guys!
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Elizabeth
10/3/2012 11:43:05 am
I know they both talk about understanding and caring for middle class families and people, but I just find it more believable coming from Obama
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Adina W.
10/3/2012 11:44:19 am
Yeah he even mentioned his grandmother
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Adnan
10/3/2012 11:46:44 am
Yea i feel like Obama is way closer in understanding the middle class than Romney is or ever will be.
Edward
10/3/2012 11:45:15 am
Really. I think Romney is more believable with his references to all the families he's spoken to and how he constantly references making jobs for the working class.
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Kashif
10/3/2012 11:43:08 am
I thought the topic over whether relinquishing medicade dollars to the states so they can better care for the poor and sick instead of the federal government controlling and reguating how that money is sused to care for the sick relates to our discussions in class on federalism and whether or not the fed govenment provides good or bad gov
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Eli
10/3/2012 11:45:23 am
Medicare is a big issue in this country. once again Romney interrupts Obama
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Jason Huang
10/3/2012 11:43:53 am
How is Obama cutting health care costs with Obama care?
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Amanda L
10/3/2012 11:45:25 am
Haha he made no sense
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Klea
10/3/2012 11:48:17 am
Obama is extracting $ 700 million dollars from medicare and putting it in obamacare.
Adina W.
10/3/2012 11:47:00 am
I might be wrong, but I think it's that employers are supposed to be involved in that? I just remember one of my teachers saying Obamacare isn't really that good for small business owners.
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Merin Thazhathukunnel
10/3/2012 11:44:28 am
Romneys just talking straight to Obama and saying why hes wrong with what hes saying...
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Grace
10/3/2012 11:44:53 am
With the issue of social security I felt that Obama had a stronger idea because of his reference to his mother and how it's helped. But the issue of Medicaid is really a big blow for him....
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Elizabeth
10/3/2012 11:48:02 am
Yeah I think he started out good, but when he repeats about his grandmother I get scared that he's running out of arguments
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Paulina
10/3/2012 11:48:50 am
I agree with you, it's a little bit repetitive.
Eugene Pogorelskiy
10/3/2012 11:46:45 am
Romney says that we must be energy independent creating more jobs for Americans, more trade, crack down on china, investing in a better education because it is the younger people that will build America for they are the Future, and Romney wants balanced budget. These five points are very organized and appealing. Romney wants to not tax the rich because is the rich that create the jobs in America, it is the independent bushiness who create the jobs and these taxes have been almost close to half the income made.
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Eugene Pogorelskiy
10/3/2012 11:51:19 am
Romney says that you can choose between private and government medicare and lowering benefits for high income seniors
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Phoebe
10/3/2012 11:59:33 am
I agree that all of those points are very appealing. I guess the only question that I would have is where would the money to pay for better education, energy, etc. come from?
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Eli
10/3/2012 11:48:12 am
Obama brought family into the debate, it makes him seem like a family man so that is also a tactic for debating
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Grace
10/3/2012 11:50:06 am
It kinda show that his kind of like a common man.
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Emilia Yoffie
10/3/2012 12:54:26 pm
the first thing he mentioned was his anniversary! Some may think that was silly but I think it was a very powerful move; the 'family man' side of him is a huge part of why he's likable.
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Katie Waka
10/3/2012 11:49:15 am
Do Romney and Obama always need to go around the question? They all just bring irrelevant points. Stop trying to distract us from what we want to know!! I like being straightforward. They should try it some time. I mean some of their ancedotes such as when Obama related his personal life with America's economy was good.
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Gaby
10/3/2012 11:52:30 am
I was thinking the exact same thing! I wish they would just answer the question.
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Michael
10/3/2012 11:52:56 am
They really need to just answer the question.
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Phoebe
10/3/2012 12:05:16 pm
Exactly, sometimes it seems like they're being clear, but it seems they just keep avoiding saying anything really decisive.
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Emily Mei
10/3/2012 11:49:43 am
If I was President, I would make emilycare happen ~
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Amanda L
10/3/2012 11:49:44 am
Well some people can't afford private insurance Romney...
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Grace
10/3/2012 11:51:18 am
Why is there no like button?
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Eli
10/3/2012 11:52:33 am
that is ture
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Katie Waka
10/3/2012 11:55:19 am
just proves he favors the business guys over the middle and lower class
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Emily Mei
10/3/2012 11:50:49 am
Stop cutting him off, Romney!!
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Zoe
10/3/2012 11:50:50 am
I just noticed the blue and red ties
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Priscilla Deng
10/3/2012 11:54:00 am
I think it is cute that they have ties to match the colors of the party. (: Whoo show some spirit!
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Paulina
10/3/2012 11:51:09 am
of course your point is going to be a better opinion Romney
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Priscilla Deng
10/3/2012 11:51:12 am
So Romney wants to lower benefits for higher income people on Medicare because they can pay for it, and also try to get competition between insurance companies so the price is lowered. However, won't that result in one or two companies big dominating the smaller ones?
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Amanda L
10/3/2012 11:53:00 am
And history repeats itself again..
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Michael
10/3/2012 11:51:33 am
I agree with Romney and what he said about heathcare. With having more benefits for the lower class and lower benefits for the upper class. I'm not saying that its good to cut benefits to people(even if its the upper class), but the upper class can probably afford to pay for the type of issurance they need better than the lower class.
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Anastasia Southerland
10/3/2012 11:51:57 am
On the topic of Social Security Romney believes that
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Hannah
10/3/2012 11:55:19 am
I agree. Vouchers just aren't going to cut it
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Anastasia Southerland
10/3/2012 12:01:45 pm
Romney doesn't seem too credible. His statics and families are not noted people or from recorded articles.
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Iana Vasilov
10/3/2012 12:08:09 pm
I think so too. Even though Romney brought examples of people asking him directly for help, he didn't really look touched with it. I like the fact that Obama related some discussed issues to his family (his grandma). I also liked the way he decried the young teacher. So i agree. Obama is more credible.
Elizabeth
10/3/2012 11:52:13 am
I like how Romney just cut off the president, and was like "can we move on, please"
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Eugene Pogorelskiy
10/3/2012 11:52:57 am
Poor Jim getting cut off =(
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Phoebe
10/3/2012 12:17:01 pm
I bet he's so angry!
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Anna yu
10/3/2012 11:53:27 am
Romney is being so ignorant and rude. All he does is talk talk talk. He doesn't even give Obama a chance to talk and prove his points
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Merin Thazhathukunnel
10/3/2012 11:53:54 am
how is lowering benefits for higher income people good for anyone?
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Emily Mei
10/3/2012 11:54:17 am
I feel that cutting medicaid and food stamps is unfair. The rich would benefit and lower classes would be suffering.
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Emily Mei
10/3/2012 11:55:10 am
And also senior citizens*
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Zoe
10/3/2012 11:54:31 am
FDR saved capitalism with government regulation, Romney
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Michael
10/3/2012 11:55:13 am
I disagree with both of them when they say that the others policies are projected to collapse, because you really don't know what kind of impact it will have.
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Grace
10/3/2012 11:56:01 am
Then figure out what these regulations should be then!
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Angelica Morales
10/3/2012 12:00:15 pm
We've been having regulation problems for a long time now and it continues to be a problem today. Especially if it's effecting housing and business. There needs to be a strong plan to fix this problem.
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Adina W.
10/3/2012 11:56:18 am
I like the Wall Street talk
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Eli
10/3/2012 11:56:59 am
when will they talk about Detroit and Romney being a Morman
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Zoe
10/3/2012 11:58:08 am
If they talk about religion I will change the channel
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Phoebe
10/3/2012 12:02:33 pm
yes thank you
Adelina
10/3/2012 11:57:53 am
Romney's talking style shows his aggressiveness, which could harm his campaign. This talking style is not appealing to the people. Even though it may seem like he wants to address pressing issues, he is just coming off as rude.
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Adina W.
10/3/2012 11:58:56 am
I'm scared I won't be able to get Romney's voice out of my head tomorrow haha
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Hannah
10/3/2012 11:59:30 am
I agree, especially when he keeps cutting them off to make/finish his point.
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Emily Mei
10/3/2012 12:00:02 pm
But he is coming off as confident. His responses to every question was quick and on point. I agree though because I feel that he's wasting his time attacking Obama rather than attacking the question that was given.
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Tyler
10/3/2012 12:00:09 pm
It could come off this way but I see him as being really passionate about what he believes, just my opinion.
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Elizabeth
10/3/2012 12:01:30 pm
I definitely agree, especially since he's trying to sound close to the people by mentioning the people he's met durin his campaign
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Gaby
10/3/2012 12:03:14 pm
I don't think he sounds aggressive! I feel like he's speaking confidently and passionately
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Anastasia Southerland
10/3/2012 12:05:32 pm
Very true he is not a "likable" candidate and he seems uninterested, insincere and rude.
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Tyler
10/3/2012 11:58:37 am
Romney got Obama when he said 4 years ago he would lower health care about $2500 and it actually has gone up.
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Michael
10/3/2012 12:00:04 pm
He really got Obama there.
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Eugene Pogorelskiy
10/3/2012 11:59:18 am
Romney has a strong point that insurance should not be expensive, because it is important and will hurts families. Obama-care has killed jobs. There is no affordable coverage.
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Anastasia Southerland
10/3/2012 12:10:24 pm
I can agree it should be inexpensive but he has not come up with a solution to help people that will not be covered in insurance because they have pre-existing conditions.
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Priscilla Deng
10/3/2012 12:00:37 pm
I like how Obama looks at the camera when he talks. It feels like he is actually talking to you.
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Adina W.
10/3/2012 12:01:52 pm
We should keep in mind that this is his second time doing this
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Paulina
10/3/2012 12:00:39 pm
Haha five seconds-Obama
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Michael
10/3/2012 12:01:00 pm
I had five seconds before you interupted me...lol.
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Adina W.
10/3/2012 12:02:36 pm
Obama is good at making himself likeable
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Frankie Ta
10/3/2012 12:03:06 pm
This really seems to be a big issue on Romney. He just can't stop interrupting Obama's ideas.
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Elizabeth
10/3/2012 12:07:51 pm
I agree, all ideas aside and everything I think it's such a big indicator of who Romney is that he seems so frantic to just cut Obama off
Eugene Pogorelskiy
10/3/2012 12:01:47 pm
The Great State of Massachusetts.
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Amanda L
10/3/2012 12:01:57 pm
"I have 5 secs before you interrupted me " - obama haha
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Eli
10/3/2012 12:02:14 pm
was i the only one that heard about Massachusetts and it wasnt delievered with "the great state of Massachusetts" and Obama complimented Romney 0.0
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Anna Yu
10/3/2012 12:03:37 pm
Obama doesn't look at Romney when he's talking to him..found that interesting.
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Emily Mei
10/3/2012 12:05:44 pm
Makes him look like he's feeling intimidated.
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Phoebe
10/3/2012 12:08:09 pm
That's true, but it seems that he looks at him while Romney is talking.
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Phoebe
10/3/2012 12:03:45 pm
I like it when they cite their information, like Romney actually said where the study that he was talking about came from.
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Paulina
10/3/2012 12:05:03 pm
Romney's point focusing on giving insurance security and healthcare for seniors and giving choices for the younger generation. Also, putting money back in not out.
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Adina W.
10/3/2012 12:05:16 pm
Did Obama just pawn Romney?
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Katie Waka
10/3/2012 12:05:56 pm
Does Romney always need to bash Obama? He's a pretty good speaker, but he has no real reasoning his points. I guess bashing is the goal here!
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Paulina
10/3/2012 12:07:19 pm
Yeah his tone is really harsh
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Adnan
10/3/2012 12:09:22 pm
I think he's trying to stay on the offensive but i think it's actually working against him
Elizabeth
10/3/2012 12:10:25 pm
Yeah, he's just saying Obama is wrong, which Obama does too, and since Obama has proof of his successes from his time in office, I think it makes Romney look bad when he says Obama's plans have all failed
Amanda L
10/3/2012 12:08:29 pm
Yeah he has an attack mode while Obama is more on the defense side
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Paulina
10/3/2012 12:10:51 pm
Ultimately, its going to effect him (Romney) in the polls.
Anastasia Southerland
10/3/2012 12:07:22 pm
Romney is repealing obama care but has no direct plan to take its place. Lets see you come up with something bright guy!
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Jason Huang
10/3/2012 12:08:49 pm
That's true,don't think Romney has a better plan.
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Adina W.
10/3/2012 12:09:02 pm
He just said discussing his plan would be too lengthy-Ryan said something similar a few days ago I think, but he was talking about making sense of the math for tax cuts
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Priscilla Deng
10/3/2012 12:10:42 pm
I totally agree. He is very vague about what he is going to replace it with.
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Amanda L
10/3/2012 12:13:18 pm
Obviously cause anything he says is "way" better
Katie Waka
10/3/2012 12:11:44 pm
Honestly no plan can happen over night. Let's see Romney make his plan happen in the blink of an eye. Ohh wait...his ideas suck so that wouldn't happen....
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Angelica Morales
10/3/2012 12:13:00 pm
I don't think there was a care plan introduced in general. Romney was talking about the problems Obama-care had by itself but never truly introduced what he had in mind.
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Merin Thazhathukunnel
10/3/2012 12:08:47 pm
Obamacare has given people with health insurance benefits and the ones without have options that give them cheaper rates... taking away obamacare leaves the people who now has it in jeopardy ...millions will lose their medicare
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Adina W.
10/3/2012 12:09:46 pm
It also makes sure that people won't lose their insurance just because of pre-existing conditions.
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Elizabeth
10/3/2012 12:12:20 pm
Yeah I think that's a good point
Adelina
10/3/2012 12:11:52 pm
I agree and I think this shows that Romney is neglecting the needs of the middle class and the lower classes. It also shows that Obama is truly addressing the issues of the lower class.
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Emily Mei
10/3/2012 12:09:20 pm
Romney started off so strong and confident but now it seems like he's getting more nervous and he's unsure of what to say, hah.
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Grace
10/3/2012 12:11:34 pm
Details, details, details
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Emily Mei
10/3/2012 12:11:52 pm
Jim is getting annoyed.
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Anastasia Southerland
10/3/2012 12:12:10 pm
Romney is just plain out rude! This could not help his campaign at all!
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Adnan
10/3/2012 12:12:41 pm
Poor Jim got cut off yet again
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Phoebe
10/3/2012 12:14:58 pm
He needs to have a whistle to blow at them!
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Adina W.
10/3/2012 12:12:48 pm
Romney is so rude to Jim just cutting him off all the time
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Zoe
10/3/2012 12:13:50 pm
Here we go with federalism
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Adina W.
10/3/2012 12:14:43 pm
So what is exactly is Romney's plan for people with pre-existing conditions? What exactly will happen to people who have had certain conditions since they were toddlers??
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E Mei
10/3/2012 12:14:54 pm
Federalism on deck.
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E Mei
10/3/2012 12:16:05 pm
The great state of Massachusetts!
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Amanda L
10/3/2012 12:17:05 pm
I agree with Obama,education is a great investment.especially nowadays work =education
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E Mei
10/3/2012 12:18:55 pm
I agree as well. How are goals achieved without education?
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Anna yu
10/3/2012 12:17:11 pm
Obama seems to care more about the people especially the middle class, lower class and their education. He keeps emphasizing those points.
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Priscilla Deng
10/3/2012 12:17:15 pm
Obama says that we need more teachers and Romney says that the "great state of Massachusetts" have wonderful teachers and don't need more. This goes back to the question that how are we going to fit 42 kids in one class. There is no way that the learning level is going to increase by this.
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Grace
10/3/2012 12:20:08 pm
The answer is hiring more teachers
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Iana Vasilov
10/3/2012 12:24:26 pm
But how is that possible if we have budget cuts?
Merin Thazhathukunnel
10/3/2012 12:24:02 pm
This is true. Romney doesnt want to hire any more teachers. Also, students cant keep borrowing money to get into college. Obama provides a chance for people with low incomes to have a chance to have the equal opportunity to a school.
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Eli
10/3/2012 12:17:15 pm
being on the aggressive does not mean you are doing better. by attacking the President and not addressing the camera and just looking at Obama makes him look nervous and someone that only wants to defend himself
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Michael
10/3/2012 12:17:25 pm
The great state of Massachusetts has the best rank for education. If either one of them can make it that each state is so highly ranked in education that it wouldn't makke sense to have rankings, it would be great.
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Phoebe
10/3/2012 12:17:49 pm
Yep there's the religion arguement
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Phoebe
10/3/2012 12:18:09 pm
*argument
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Zoe
10/3/2012 12:17:55 pm
Religion/god should never be brought up in government.
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Phoebe
10/3/2012 12:19:15 pm
exactly, Romney was speaking of the constitution, it's IN the constitution that government and religion should be separate.
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Tyler
10/3/2012 12:20:00 pm
AGREED!!!!
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Iana Vasilov
10/3/2012 12:26:28 pm
i agree!
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Paulina
10/3/2012 12:19:00 pm
Yeah, bringing up God was a no-go for Romney.
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Anna Yu
10/3/2012 12:19:06 pm
The way Romney is pointing out the goals Obama weren't able to accomplish makes Him look bad...
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Adina W.
10/3/2012 12:20:27 pm
Romney just referred to poor kids and corrected himself with the words lower income
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Amanda L
10/3/2012 12:22:41 pm
Ha I noticed that too!
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Elizabeth
10/3/2012 12:20:32 pm
I like that Obama said the first job of the federal government is to protect the people, and that he wants to hire more teachers, and how he took a stab at romney's not so specific plan
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Michael
10/3/2012 12:20:40 pm
We have seperation between government and religon, so why bring it up. It doesn't help you in any kind of debate.
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E Mei
10/3/2012 12:20:48 pm
Obama's smile is so infectious!
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Adina W.
10/3/2012 12:23:59 pm
http://gifwich.tumblr.com/post/32848048062/the-anatomy-of-a-smile#notes
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Grace
10/3/2012 12:23:03 pm
I hate how Romney always needs the last work = =
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Tyler
10/3/2012 12:23:39 pm
"You're entitled to your own airplane, house, but not facts." I am seriously amused.
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Priscilla Deng
10/3/2012 12:23:43 pm
We already grade our schools!
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Amanda L
10/3/2012 12:25:32 pm
Yeah I know right and like that works "so" well
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Adina
10/3/2012 12:25:34 pm
Oh Romney
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Priscilla Deng
10/3/2012 12:27:29 pm
Massachusetts schools are great. One factor can be just because Harvard is located in Cambridge, MA
Katie Waka
10/3/2012 12:27:02 pm
These points....just no... I'm done lol
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Amanda L
10/3/2012 12:29:00 pm
He kept saying that Massachusetts had the best schools in the nation but by whose stats !?
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Anastasia Southerland
10/3/2012 12:24:44 pm
The education system should have some support from the federal government. State governments should not have sole say in the educational system, i agree with both candidates. Just not sure about the funding and where that comes in for each candidate
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Eli
10/3/2012 12:25:39 pm
Honestly Obama won this debate solely based on the fact that he was calm collected and he addressed the camera. Romney was challenging everything, on the defensive and honestly he just flip flopped everything he did.
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Michael
10/3/2012 12:27:17 pm
I agree
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Tyler
10/3/2012 12:30:28 pm
I don't agree. I believe Romney won this one. I can't judge it based off of who was calm and who wasn't. Romney made specific points against Obama that he couldn't rebuttal, at least to my satisfaction.
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Merin Thazhathukunnel
10/3/2012 12:26:53 pm
Romney is now promising too much. Take action the day after? thats almost impossible to deal with everything.
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Amanda L
10/3/2012 12:27:00 pm
Yeah Obama! power to the middle class!
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Eugene Pogorelskiy
10/3/2012 12:27:11 pm
Great teachers = great schools!
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Kashif
10/3/2012 12:27:28 pm
I loved how Romney said we need more money for "poo" kids to attend college then he says oh noo rather "lower income students." Typical Mitt
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Kashif
10/3/2012 01:22:28 pm
poor*
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Anna Yu
10/3/2012 12:28:21 pm
Romney needs to have a direct plan, he avoids going into details about them.
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Priscilla Deng
10/3/2012 12:32:33 pm
I agree. Even in his closing statement he is pretty vague on what he is going to do.
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Adina W.
10/3/2012 12:33:14 pm
I think so too
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Emilia Yoffie
10/3/2012 12:38:31 pm
Throughout his entire campaign, Romney has avoided providing clear examples of what he plans to do as president.
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Frankie Ta
10/3/2012 12:30:56 pm
I feel like everything is about promise, buts it's not that i have a problem with obama. Just everythings about promises.
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Amanda L
10/3/2012 12:31:00 pm
Camera eye contact :o
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Emilia Yoffie
10/3/2012 12:42:52 pm
Romney kept looking at Obama, as if the most important thing was to prove him wrong, instead of looking to the audience (and virtually the 40+ million people watching tonight), as Obama did.
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Angelica Morales
10/3/2012 12:32:16 pm
I think Obama create more valid points and back it up with stronger plan ideas. Romney did start strong but you could tell he began to fall apart as he started to interrupt Jim and Obama more and more.
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Iana Vasilov
10/3/2012 12:46:02 pm
i think so too. it just showed how nervous he was. Romney had limited amount of points so that's why he kept on interrupting.
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Zoe
10/3/2012 12:32:45 pm
Just fact checked. We're ranked 37th in health care. Politicians live in a bubble where facts don't matter.
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K. Kolbert
10/3/2012 12:40:20 pm
I'm not in this band, but Zoe you are spot on.
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Merin Thazhathukunnel
10/3/2012 12:32:48 pm
Romney's all for state powers.
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Katie Waka
10/3/2012 12:34:08 pm
Okay guys! I'm voting for JIM!!!! Lol
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Emilia Yoffie
10/3/2012 12:35:57 pm
poor jim lol
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Amanda L
10/3/2012 12:36:26 pm
JIM 2012
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Paulina
10/3/2012 12:42:32 pm
Haha Jim all the way.
Adina W.
10/3/2012 12:34:10 pm
Good night Jim!
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Eugene Pogorelskiy
10/3/2012 12:35:01 pm
Obama won this debate because he has manners apparently and because he can address the people...he is a very smart man when it comes to address the people of America and being very appealing, however i dont think that his point were strong as Romney, Romney has very strong points on education, health care, and how the government should take control, and military. "We have to work together," Romney says. "Republicans and Democrats both love America but we need leadership." obama missed out on many points.
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Michael
10/3/2012 12:36:54 pm
I agree, Romney had the upperhand on key issues, but Obama stayed calmer and just spoke his thoughts. Unlike Romney who seemed he always had to have the last word.
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Tyler
10/3/2012 12:41:35 pm
I just don't think that you can judge this based on how calm they were. I would not vote for a president based on how calm they were, I would based on their stands on the country.
Michael
10/3/2012 12:51:09 pm
What I meant by being calmer is that he wasn't changing anything in his policies and trying to speak louder than the other to have the upperhand in the debate the way that Romney did. Romney kept repeating how Obama was accusing him of policies that he didn't state. But, Obama wasn't doing the same. By being calmer it gave Obama a better mannerism for the debate.
Michael
10/3/2012 12:54:34 pm
Tyler, I also state that Romney had the upperhand on key issues. I didn't just say that Obama is better for being calmer.
Merin Thazhathukunnel
10/3/2012 12:39:28 pm
Both were really strong with their ideas. Obama was more specific but Romney was more strict and commanding with his ideas. This debate was more back and forth than I expected. I think it got all Americans thinking. However, I do as well think Obama won this debate. He talked to Americans and clearly stated what he would do for the future.
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Eugene
10/3/2012 12:46:38 pm
i dont believe obama won i was saying that obama should not be considered to be strong because he made strong eye contact and addressing the people. Obama missed out on many points and Romney is not raising the taxes for anyone because the middle class will receive jobs and the rich will always stay rich you cannot do anything about it. Romey clearly pointed out that Obamacare does not work and jobs have gone down and a shrinking middle class. President Obama has added over 53 trillion in debt , Romney said that "im concerned about america, its more than just the two of us, or our parties".
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E Mei
10/3/2012 12:37:13 pm
Romney started and ended the debate strong, but it did fluctuate a bit in the middle. Obama made stronger points and he backed them up very well.
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Eugene Pogorelskiy
10/3/2012 12:38:03 pm
Romney had strong points on cutting taxing on the rich and government regulation which is a very important topic.
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Paulina
10/3/2012 12:41:26 pm
Yeah, Romney seemed to be concrete and firm on his focus on jobs, health care, and military. Many argue that he showed power. However, Obama had a better promise on education, energy, and reducing taxes.
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Priscilla Deng
10/3/2012 12:42:20 pm
I feel that Obama had more solid debate because he had a nice calm manners; unlike Romney who was interrupting Jim and Obama. Obama had a decent position on education. I feel that Romney was only praising the state of Massachusetts, and didn't mention any other states and how they were on education.
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Anastasia Southerland
10/3/2012 12:44:23 pm
Very true, he seemed a little repetitive with his whole education reform in Massachusetts.
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Paulina
10/3/2012 12:47:35 pm
Massachusetts!
Amanda L
10/3/2012 12:51:52 pm
Yeah i felt that he only flaunted what was already good and not what he should work on.
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Anastasia Southerland
10/3/2012 12:42:29 pm
Romney had many rebuttals to obama arguments and Obama continuously pin pointed Romney's vague answers that were missing factual support helped and hindered both candidates. The debate would've been better if specific arguments were addressed each time between the two. I'm not sure who won the debate overall because im not sure if all the information was factual but if it was Obama did. He was a great speaker, he had details in his plan and he did not necessarily every chance he got bash Romney
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Hannah
10/3/2012 12:43:28 pm
A commentator was just pointing out that Romney mostly spoke directly towards Obama and Obama spoke mostly to the moderator and to the audience instead of directly to Romney. But I think that's important because in the end it matters what we think of their policies and not what they think of each other's.
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Emilia Yoffie
10/3/2012 12:57:08 pm
exactly! Romney kept attacking Obama and kept speaking to solely to Obama, when his point doesn't have to be proven to Obama. Romney completely disregarded both Jim and the 40 million people watching
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Jason Huang
10/3/2012 12:52:06 pm
I think Obama is winning because he has been in the job so he knows which plans Romney has will and will not work. Obama has a strong idea about education because a lot of great teachers out there are coming out of college unemployed so hiring them will help our education. Even though Obama had good points, I felt that Romney was more confident tonight, while Romney was smiling the whole debate, Obama was looking down and away.
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E Mei
10/3/2012 12:55:38 pm
I'm really in-between after this debate because both candidates were really strong. Obama's energy level wasn't as high Romney's, and Romney's argument did seem a lot more confident than Obama's. The attitude Romney came off as was very aggressive and it makes me think about how he would be in office; very impatient and stubborn. I feel that Obama was very natural about the debate and he wasn't stressing about because he knows what to do, he spent his closing argument explaining the problems he plans to fix. Romney came off very strong but he tired out and it seemed as if he was trying to be confident, but his words didn't back that up.
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Alexandria DeFaria
10/3/2012 12:56:38 pm
so Romney said he wanted to give 2500$ to the seniors ? that is not nearly enough for 1/4 of the country. why would he take away Obama care which actually has given people Medicare?
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Adelina
10/3/2012 12:57:31 pm
I think Obama won the debate on education. He addressed education by providing solutions such as hiring new teachers and providing job training that would benefit the middle class. The job training is key to addressing the economic problems of the middle class. Romney doesn't address how he will solve the education issue in America; he doesn't have a clear plan. This shows that Obama is truly looking for improve this field, while trying to create jobs at the same time, which is another key issue. Obama's education plan will benefit many people in the low and middle classes by helping them obtain jobs in the future.
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Alexandria D
10/3/2012 01:00:28 pm
1. issue: Tax. Romney wants to cut taxes which is nice but at the same time tax is what funds the government!! taxing the rich is a good idea they have money to spare they can pay off the government while the middle class helps with all the other little issues. I think the idea of helping small businesses is a good idea because that's what makes job for the people Obama wants to makes jobs for the people.
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E Mei
10/3/2012 01:04:21 pm
Wait. Wait. Romney likes Big Bird? Hold up. I LIKE BIG BIRD.
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Emilia Yoffie
10/3/2012 01:18:38 pm
As much as I dislike Romney, he looked very relaxed throughout the debate, while Obama seemed nervous and lost at times--almost flat. Unfortunately, that may have hurt Obama. But then again, are these debates really crucial to the election? Do they really sway voters or simply confirm how people already felt about the candidates..
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Adelina
10/3/2012 01:34:42 pm
I think the most important thing that people have to do is fact check. The voters need to know if these candidates are telling the truth or if they are just trying to gain more votes. Debates can sway voters but they can not sway a large number of voters.
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Adina
10/3/2012 01:32:44 pm
http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6830834/mitt-romney-style-gangnam-style-parody
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Emilia Yoffie
10/3/2012 01:36:17 pm
YES.
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Ms Albu
10/3/2012 02:08:03 pm
You guys are the smartest :-) This is more fun to read than the other blogs. Honest, authentic responses from the American public.
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Ms Albu
10/3/2012 02:24:45 pm
(Other blogs on the web, I mean. The other bands have awesome blog posts too).
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Feezy
2/13/2013 11:55:34 am
Im a time traveler from the past and im stuck there. but i must know, who wins?!
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