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TASK: WHO IS WINNING AND WHY?
1. Choose an issue(S) and explain whose idea is stronger and explain WHY.
2. Choose a matter of style of their debating and explain who is stronger and explain WHY.
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HELLO EVERYONE! Have fun watching and blogging. TASK: WHO IS WINNING AND WHY? 1. Choose an issue(S) and explain whose idea is stronger and explain WHY. 2. Choose a matter of style of their debating and explain who is stronger and explain WHY.
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Mr. Mills
10/3/2012 08:40:49 am
If you can not watch a TV, you can stream the debate on nytimes.com.
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Nicole
10/3/2012 11:03:12 am
This guy has a nice tie.
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silah
10/3/2012 11:09:09 am
Obama is a good public speaker.
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Silah
10/3/2012 11:11:27 am
Romney wears red tie, Obama wears blue one. mmkay
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Kate
10/3/2012 11:15:44 am
I c wat u did thar.
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Kate
10/3/2012 11:12:10 am
I like how Mitt Romney is actually answering the questions.
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Kate
10/3/2012 11:13:41 am
Obama's and Romney's convo as they're shaking hands.
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Maya
10/3/2012 11:15:04 am
Romney makes a vary valid point on the middle class struggling under Obama's presidency. He offers logical solutions like lowering taxes, investing in education, and becoming energy independent.
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Julia Sanua
10/3/2012 11:15:06 am
Romney is really trying to beat down Obama. It's a sharp contrast to how Obama seems to be taking care to mention the contributions of Republicans and Romney's good points.
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Amanda
10/3/2012 11:16:34 am
I agree with Kate. He's giving interesting points about energy and how the production of energy has increased on private land, not on government land in the US.
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Lukas
10/3/2012 12:42:30 pm
I think Romney was better because he was a bit more aggressive to Obama's records. I think Obama should've gone at Romney more, a bit too passive.
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Jessie Maguire
10/3/2012 11:16:43 am
I feel like Romney is really enjoying himself here. Everytime Obama is talking he is silently laughing to himself.
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Silah
10/3/2012 11:18:03 am
i thought i was the only one who noticed :D
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Jessie Maguire
10/3/2012 11:20:12 am
It's so strange he is like laughing and having his own little party. I prefer that though then him seeming nervous. To me that at least means he is confident and prepared.
Kadaja Brown
10/3/2012 11:35:18 am
I agree, and also Obama keeps looking down while Romney is speaking. I think he should show his face a bit more, so that the undecided voters won't think he's afraid or unsure of himself.
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Edward Mordechay
10/3/2012 11:48:41 am
I just think Romney is laughing because he saw this coming.
Lukas
10/3/2012 12:43:47 pm
I was thinking the same thing. He should've looked up at Romney more, like Romney did.
Christopher D'Antonio
10/3/2012 11:17:19 am
My impression on style on the very first questions asking about how they differ in fixing the economy, Mitt Romeny has a more forceful style. He is speaking very clearly and laying out his plans in a way that is easy to understand. I think President Obama is speaking more as a teacher who is lecturing his student.
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Jessie Maguire
10/3/2012 11:18:46 am
I agree with that I feel like it is more engaging to listen to Romney, Obama is reminding me of a teacher.
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10/4/2012 10:06:31 am
I dont go here.. but i agree obama stinks!!! romney is the best! woohoo
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Nicole
10/3/2012 11:17:34 am
Romney says every.single.thing. with a smile. Oh the face of a true politician.
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Julia Sanua
10/3/2012 11:18:06 am
So...who's telling the truth?
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Eli Medina
10/3/2012 11:18:31 am
The fact that Mitt Romney cut off the man in the chair to speak out against what Obama said makes me feel like he can;t take a hit or he can't handle the heat in this debate. I think personality wise he feels like he needs to have the last word.
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Maya
10/3/2012 11:19:40 am
Or he's just very passionate about his beliefs
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Jessie Maguire
10/3/2012 11:21:12 am
I think I have to agree with Maya here because I know when I want to get my point across its hard to be told to wait. I think it shows Romney's passion towards his beliefs.
Eli Medina
10/3/2012 11:23:36 am
But we shouldn't get passion confused with being rude. He should know better and he should know that if he is being told to stop he should stop and at least try to not come across aggressive.
Allen Lin
10/3/2012 11:28:11 am
I agree with Eli because Romney want to out speak President Obama and he cant control his temper. He needs to let the man in the chair to speak too.He always said he needs the last word.
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Gabby Wasserstein
10/3/2012 11:19:05 am
Well I believe that Romney is pretty anal. He keeps talking about Obama being happy that he's around him. Romney wants to crack down on China. That's just asking for another war yet again. Obama wants to improve Education and get more Math and Science. He wants to keep tuitions low which will help us future college kids. They both discuss conserving energy and helping small businesses which is a positive factor
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Eli Medina
10/3/2012 11:21:43 am
I actually agree with you and I actually like how Obama addresses us students and future college kids and the possibility of lowering tuition
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Julia Sanua
10/3/2012 11:19:10 am
Is it just me, or has Romney completely switched around all his positions?!
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Joshua
10/3/2012 11:20:21 am
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS. I thought I was the only one.
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Kate
10/3/2012 11:22:25 am
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
Silah
10/3/2012 11:23:36 am
I guess he noticed all the hate he was getting on the internet and had to reevaluate his campaign.
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Julia Sanua
10/3/2012 11:26:38 am
Especially with the recent 47% fiasco...he needs to do all he can to win back voted in his favor.
Joshua
10/3/2012 11:19:11 am
Okay, so Romney is talking about energy comsumption & production. He's stating how the President has failed to increase production of oil & stuff, because the private lands have been producing them. Nonetheless, he has failed to mention that under the Obama administration, natural energy production such as solar and wind have doubled and all others have increased by at least 30%
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Amanda
10/3/2012 11:19:47 am
I disagree. It seems like Romney's very sure of himself. He's insulting Obama. Definitely very comfortable.
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Amanda
10/3/2012 11:21:30 am
How can you make cuts in education if you're trying to improve the education system?
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Kate
10/3/2012 11:23:17 am
I thought I was the only one who noticed.
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Ed
10/3/2012 11:58:58 am
The problem is not the money, but how we teach the students because we've had more money put into the system, but it hasn't been working. I think it would be best to use that money that's put into the public schools and give it to the colleges where adults can be more trained. We should then reform our educational system and follow charter schools because of their success, and this could be all done by making cuts
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Nicole
10/3/2012 11:21:56 am
Romney is getting feisty.
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Gabby
10/3/2012 11:22:08 am
I agree with Eli about Romney requesting the last word. He needs to relax.
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Nicole
10/3/2012 11:25:47 am
I agree with Eli and Gabby. Again! He did it again!
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Darcie Dominianni
10/3/2012 11:22:28 am
The poor guy in the chair can hardly get Romney to finish.
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Nicole
10/3/2012 11:23:51 am
I agree. Poor guy. He needs a hug.
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Silah
10/3/2012 11:22:30 am
Romney's got a lot of anecdotes. True or not true?
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Julia Sanua
10/3/2012 11:25:03 am
Yeah, definitely. He's using a lot of pathos. I'm a bit suspicious of emotional arguments like that.
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Darcie Dominianni
10/3/2012 11:57:36 am
These anecdotes sound completely made up. I highly doubt all these people came up to Obama and Romney and told them their life stories.
Allen Lin
10/3/2012 11:23:27 am
Mitt Romney is attacking what President Obama is saying. He is saying that President Obama dont understand his plan on economy. Also President Obama doesnt look at Mitt Romney while he is talking.
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Jessie Maguire
10/3/2012 11:25:10 am
I think the President would seem more sure of himself if he looked at Romney while he was speaking. It's a debate between two people, I think you should always looks at your opponent.
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Joshua
10/3/2012 11:28:15 am
Exactly, and try to intimidate.
Allen Lin
10/3/2012 11:30:55 am
I agree with you Jessie. President Obama needs to look at Romney while he is talking. It will make Obama look more concern and show Romney that he is not winning this debate.
Jessie Maguire
10/3/2012 11:23:37 am
I really like that Romeny wants to lower the tax rates. I think its unfair to have really high rates on those who are sucessful. I know a lot of people will disagree with me on this. I just believe that if people are sucessful they shouldn't be punished by being taxed more. I understand that they have more money. However, they could use that extra money to continue to stimulate the economy.
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Kate
10/3/2012 11:25:12 am
THANK YOU.
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Julia Sanua
10/3/2012 11:29:43 am
Yes, because the trickle down thing worked just great for us during the Bush administration. The important part of this argument is the "using the extra money to stimulate the economy"...and that just hasn't been happening.
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Joshua
10/3/2012 11:29:52 am
I kinda agree, but if you think about it, that's what Hoover did with his trickle-down theory and look where that the public for the next years. #GreatDepressionFlow
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Jessie Maguire
10/3/2012 11:39:11 am
I'm not saying that the rich should be completely responsible for restimulating the economy. I know about the trickle down effect. I was just saying that I think its unfair that the wealthy are always punished for making more money than anyone else. The wealthy can work just has hard as everyone else. I don't think people realize that there are self-made wealthy people who came from nothing. I don't think they should now have insane tax increases.
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Edward
10/3/2012 11:53:38 am
I think that Obama wants to raise taxes on those companies that are a lot richer like fortune 500 companies. I think that it would be smarter to go with Romney's idea for reducing deductions, but keeping rates the same because we would be affecting everyone, and we will be adding money.
Jessie Maguire
10/3/2012 12:14:01 pm
I don't even think we should be increasing taxes on the Fortune 500 companies. I think that everyone automatically goes to the rich thinking that it's not a big deal to raise their taxes. For them it's just as big a deal as raising anyone else taxes. I do agree to keep with Romneys ideas for reductions
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Kate
10/3/2012 11:24:42 am
Did Romney just say that in order to decrease the deficit we need to pay higher taxes?
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Nicole
10/3/2012 11:26:38 am
Welcome to the world of politics
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Silah
10/3/2012 11:25:17 am
Why am i focusing on their education policies? Oh yeah, cuz that's all i care about.
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Darcie Dominianni
10/3/2012 11:25:56 am
Romney can't even follow the rules of the debate, so why should we trust him with our government and economy?
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Hamza
10/3/2012 11:26:19 am
Obamas got 14 points in the first quarter.. Romneys down by 2.. and the first quarter ended 9 minutes ago lol..
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Kate
10/3/2012 11:28:39 am
Where are you seeing the points?
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Hamza
10/3/2012 11:33:13 am
Nowhere i was just saying that i thought Obama was kind of winning and they are disregarding the time clock.
Joshua
10/3/2012 11:26:45 am
Oh my goodness. Can Romney stop? He really wants the that last word and he just keeps repeating himself and contradicting his campaign.
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Hamza
10/3/2012 11:28:30 am
He likes PBS... leave him alone
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Kate
10/3/2012 11:29:50 am
He likes coal, too.
Kate
10/3/2012 11:30:45 am
http://gifwich.tumblr.com/post/32843745007#notes
Silah
10/3/2012 11:32:03 am
lol wow that was fast :D
Nicole
10/3/2012 11:27:42 am
The amount of questions that these men are side stepping.....
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Maya
10/3/2012 11:27:52 am
Romney - "Going forward with the status quo is not going to cut it for the American people who are struggling today."
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Jessie Maguire
10/3/2012 11:28:04 am
I really like what Romney just said about not wanting to leave all the problems to the future generations. I like that he's showing a concern for the future generations and those in who will be in charge (because that's us)
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Nicole
10/3/2012 11:28:59 am
Team big bird.
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Darcie Dominianni
10/3/2012 11:29:13 am
I feel really bad for the moderator. Romney just disregards him completely, then he insults his channel? Ouch.
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Eli Medina
10/3/2012 11:33:31 am
agreed!
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Nicole
10/3/2012 11:30:12 am
Obama just went derp.
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Kate
10/3/2012 11:32:01 am
The gifs on tumblr right now are delicious.
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Julia Sanua
10/3/2012 11:39:16 am
Yeah, my parents keep thinking I'm laughing at the debate when I'm actually laughing at my computer, heh.
Eli Medina
10/3/2012 11:32:33 am
I honestly like the way Obama is talking about the cuts. And I loved how he put in the words of "us, successful people could contribute a little more to help end the deficit" I felt when he used the word "us" he really meant everyone including him. And that he is willing to give up his money to help. And i also like the fact that when the man in the chair said mr.president you went over the two minutes he apologized
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Nicole
10/3/2012 11:34:44 am
Obama just got 20 points in my book for apologizing.
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Kadaja Brown
10/3/2012 11:32:59 am
Even though I'm on Obama's side-politically speaking, Mitt Romney's argument on the economy is stronger, because instead of just stating energy-get oil offshore Alaska, burn clean coal industry, trade, helping small business. As oppose to Obama continuosly repeating his ideas and going back to Romney's "$5 trillion on taxing(?)" idea. He also uses real life situations like that women who came up to him and said that she needs help.
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Priscilla Ferreras
10/3/2012 11:33:19 am
Mitt Romeny's white shirt is whiter than Obamas. merp.
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Julia Sanua
10/3/2012 11:42:33 am
On my TV, Obama's is much whiter. Hmm.
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Aneesa
10/3/2012 11:33:44 am
You're totally right Nicole. And the smile is so creepy!!!
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Gabby
10/3/2012 11:34:48 am
I want to slap Romney. That is all
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Priscilla Ferreras
10/3/2012 11:39:52 am
Second on that. He's wasting his breath....
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Julia Sanua
10/3/2012 11:35:42 am
Regardless of the ideas that are being put forth, Romney seems to be a much more engaging speaker. A lot of hand motions, a lot of stress on his words...he's very passionate about what he's saying. (Of course, this doesn't necessarily mean that his arguments and positions are better.)
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Cherish Harper
10/3/2012 11:39:13 am
I agree with Julia. Romney seems a lot more passionate than Obama. I think that because they are both speaking really well, but with all the information that circulates through the media, its impossible to know who to really believe.
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Julia Sanua
10/3/2012 11:44:48 am
Also, they keep accusing the other of lying. Hard to tell who's telling the truth.
Amanda
10/3/2012 11:40:47 am
I agree. Obama seems to be very laid back tonight. He's taking his time and really thinking about his words. Romney's more on the defensive side. He's just spitting out everything that comes to his mind. Obama's more experienced maybe that's why he's so relaxed as opposed to Romney.
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Christopher D'Antonio
10/3/2012 11:36:00 am
On the issue of how to reduce the deficit, there were major differences in the answers. While Gov. Romeny made a strong point in saying that before we borrow money from China, we should make sure that the spending is absolutely necessary, I think the President had a strong point when he replied that high income people must pay more in taxes and that the oil companies should not have ta breaks. The President says we have to both reduce spending and raise revenue. I think that is the better approach.
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Eli Medina
10/3/2012 11:38:49 am
I agree with your views towards this topic
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Eli Medina
10/3/2012 11:36:49 am
I like Obama's views on Corporate tax. And that the tax break given to Exxon for example should be given to small businesses.
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Darcie Dominianni
10/3/2012 11:37:02 am
Obama is right about the problem of the education system as he mentioned in the anecdote about the teacher. It's ridiculous that class sizes are so big.
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Sophie
10/3/2012 11:37:04 am
Romney seems to know what he's talking about in those two minute intervals they each get. When he's talking he looks at Obama and explains his points thoroughly, whereas Obama is looking at the old dude in the chair asking questions. Romney is pointing out that the middle class is in deep trouble, while the upper class is fine in the economy. It's unfair to tax the successful people. Honestly I barely understand what they are saying because they keep getting cut off every 2 minutes, what's the point of argument? Also, all this talk about Obama's plan is lies. It's been four years and the economy has gotten worse. Romney clearly has stronger points and Obama is talking poop. GO ROMNEY. DAS MA MANNNNN <33333
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Joshua
10/3/2012 11:38:51 am
Stop.
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Julia Sanua
10/3/2012 11:52:09 am
The direction someone's gaze is directed at does not validate their argument. Also, if you barely understand what they are saying, how can you make general statements about them and their positions?!
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Joshua
10/3/2012 11:37:18 am
"Some of them are sitting on the floor." He just described Murrow.
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Maya
10/3/2012 11:38:16 am
Obama says Medicaid shouldn't be moved to the states because that would lower the budget and really negatively affect those who need it. Do you guys think federal or state government should be responsible for this?
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Kadaja Brown
10/3/2012 11:59:32 am
I believe the federal government should be in charge of Medicaid, because it's a serious aid for the nation, and it needs to be control by a high government. Medicaid can't be allowed or reduced financially in one state and not in others, because if someone from a Medicare-allowed state moves to another state that doesn't allow it, they would be at a stand still.
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Gabby
10/3/2012 11:38:24 am
2 minutes per question? Ok Romney
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Silah
10/3/2012 11:38:50 am
Romney: cut medicaid.
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Joshua
10/3/2012 11:39:51 am
I'm, we're only living on the planet and harming it.
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Allen Lin
10/3/2012 11:39:39 am
I feel that the way Mitt Romney is debating is stronger than Obama because he wants to get his point across. He also attack Obama's ideas and make it sound like his ideas are more important and more right. Romney is looking directly at President Obama most of the time and by looking directly at Obama make President Obama look down or at the audience most of the time.
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Kadaja Brown
10/3/2012 11:40:09 am
Romney is too much sometimes. Especially when he wants to lead the debate instead of the lead speaker. I didn't like it when he said Obama spoke first so he wants to have the last word, even though he will speak first in another topic.
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Amanda
10/3/2012 11:42:46 am
Definitely. Not a trait we want in a leader. We need someone willing to listen and be patient. He seems very hot-headed. He had a good start. Now it's going too far.
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Amanda N.
10/3/2012 12:02:49 pm
AGREED. Romeny talks so much! When asked about the Dodd-Frank he kept on talking in circles and didn't allow Obama to talk till the guy who was asking questions told him to let Obama finally talk.
Hamza
10/3/2012 11:40:37 am
Whichever candidate makes the strongest case in favor of small business and the middle class will win regardless of whether they can back up their words or not. I also think Romneys advisers told him to speak as often as possible to make him look extremely confident.
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Eli Medina
10/3/2012 11:43:47 am
I like the fact that Obama used the story of his grandmother and relates his own personal family life to the economy and it's current or past state. He used that example very well to get into his views on social security,entitlements and medicare/medicaid. He made himself seem more human
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Jessie Maguire
10/3/2012 11:45:01 am
Yes I like that he is using the story about his grandmother. I think it makes him seem more relatable and more human. I think that makes him seem more likeable.
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Jessie Maguire
10/3/2012 11:44:00 am
I wish they would just answer the questions, this is the first presidential debate I've ever really watched and I'm really confused. I like direct answers!
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Joshua
10/3/2012 11:46:37 am
#preach
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Eli Medina
10/3/2012 11:47:37 am
I whole heartily AGREE!
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silah
10/3/2012 11:48:36 am
yeah, its hard to keep up. They should know the questions beforehand or something so they know what to say, and not try to fit the questions fit into their script.
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Jessie Maguire
10/3/2012 11:49:25 am
I'm really trying to understand everything, but I barely know whats going on anymore. Just answer the questions. Imagine we did this in school.
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Gabby
10/3/2012 11:46:26 am
Both of them talk about small business. Romney says that The top 3 percent of small businesses employ so many people that they deserve a tax break. Obama says that the top 3 percent are not really small businesses and includes Donald Trump and that it shouldn't. I completely agree with Obama on this one
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Julia Sanua
10/3/2012 11:48:09 am
Romney need to CHILL AND LET JIM SPEAK. GOD.
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Priscilla Ferreras
10/3/2012 11:49:30 am
UM NEWS FLASH, just because little old man Romney is 'debating stronger' doesn't mean is making the best points for the people.I feel like Obama is sincere in his points on decent health care, VOUCHERS not being the way to go, benefits should not be effected, keeping prescription pills at the price they are, education and reducing budget cuts, e.t.c He's trying to put Obama down, for the four years he's spent as President. It's not the easiest job to run a country. I would LOVE to see Romney or the average man, fix and clean up ALL the problems of the economy while their in office.
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Silah
10/3/2012 11:52:18 am
seriously though, obama tried getting a lot of things passed. it was congress who didn't allow it. who knows, this term might be better for him. he gives it all he's got. look how old he looks in just four years, it looks like its been 8 years.
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Bianca Oliva
10/3/2012 11:50:10 am
On the issue of taxes, Romney's basic view is more employment, which creates tax revenues for the government which enables the goverment to pay for its debt and create programs. He plans to increase employment by lowering taxes for small businesses which will allow for more spending. While Obama believes in increasing taxes for small businesses by 5%. I think Romney's plan makes more sense. You have to give more opportunites to small businesses to expand, and this also helps his position on the middle class.
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Joshua
10/3/2012 11:52:12 am
Did you just hear poor Jim trying to stop Romney? And Romney just looked at him, right in the eye and kept going.
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Eli Medina
10/3/2012 11:53:18 am
How Rude!
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Cherish Harper
10/3/2012 11:54:46 am
I know! Romney too pushy!
Joshua
10/3/2012 12:07:00 pm
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbci2qQYYz1qdglgno1_500.png
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Eli Medina
10/3/2012 11:52:42 am
Can I just mention how hard it is to keep up with all of these comments and pay attention to the debate at the same time!
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Nicole
10/3/2012 11:53:59 am
I agree
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Darcie Dominianni
10/3/2012 11:52:57 am
Obama is clearly winning this debate.
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Christopher D'Antonio
10/3/2012 11:59:14 am
The point of the debate is to get your ideas accross
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Hamza
10/3/2012 11:53:01 am
I doubt Obama will win because he has to answer to all of the things he did and didnt do in the past as well as speak about the things he will to do fix them as well as the new things he will do in the future. Romney on the other hand just has to talk about what he'll do in the future.
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Silah
10/3/2012 11:54:17 am
Now that Romney knows that Obama is not going to challenge him, he's feeling confident...
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Carol Huang
10/3/2012 11:54:32 am
I find Romney so aggressive.
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Amanda
10/3/2012 11:55:29 am
On the topic of medicare, the chance that people will have to pay $6000 a year once they've retired is scary. The thought that the medicare system could one day collapse is even scarier. Obama makes more sense and his antics are more logical. Romney's more idealistic.
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Silah
10/3/2012 11:55:41 am
Romney thinks middle class is 200K-250k a year. I don't know what world he lives in but it ain't mine.
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Bianca Oliva
10/3/2012 12:00:59 pm
I recently read an article on this, and I agree. Many Americans think that we would favor the upper class, yet many of his points are on small businesses or couples that can't afford insurrance.
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Bianca Oliva
10/3/2012 12:02:47 pm
WOAH. *Romney would favore the upper class.
Nicole
10/3/2012 11:56:02 am
That smirk...
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Julia Sanua
10/3/2012 11:56:04 am
The New York Times has been doing a fact check on both the speaker's statements! It's worth checking out.
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Sophie
10/3/2012 11:56:44 am
This is complete and utter chaos. This old guy should be asking more neutral questions. Romney is being sassy and making good points whereas you have Obama thinking and stuttering. Honestly I don't understand this. Do you actually think the average American understands this debate and what is a dot frank?
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Jessie Maguire
10/3/2012 11:58:23 am
I really agree that the average American won't understand this debate. I'm a pretty smart person and I'm getting confused.
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Maya
10/3/2012 11:59:39 am
Dodd Frank gives the federal government permission to intervene and play a greater role in Wall Street
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Cherish Harper
10/3/2012 11:59:48 am
What do you mean by more neutral questions? Jim is asking biased questions so the American people can understand the exact position of each candidate.
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It's actually Dodd-Frank.
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Silah
10/3/2012 11:56:56 am
oh look another story!
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Julia Sanua
10/3/2012 11:57:54 am
The New York Times: "President Obama is right that Mr. Romney indicated at a Republican debate that he would reject a deficit reduction plan that included $10 in spending cuts for every $1 of revenue increases.
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Silah
10/3/2012 11:58:23 am
oh snap!
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Joshua
10/3/2012 11:58:42 am
Romney...the arrogance in this one.
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Darcie Dominianni
10/3/2012 12:12:15 pm
Jim just gave up on him though. Did you see his face after Romney just cut him off?
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Darcie Dominianni
10/3/2012 12:01:09 pm
Poor Obama, it's been four years and everyone still calls his Obamacare plan socialism. I like how he tried to clear that up.
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Eli Medina
10/3/2012 12:01:21 pm
Even when Obama cuts off Jim he's being really for lack of better words cute! I want to give him a hug
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Amanda
10/3/2012 12:01:36 pm
Go Obama!
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Julia Sanua
10/3/2012 12:01:49 pm
Obama's got a point. Honestly, I can't take Romney's inconsistencies.
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Amanda
10/3/2012 12:03:32 pm
Agreed. He's either changing his mind or coming back to the same argument. All of his ideas come back to state level power. Obama's talking about national level power.
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Christopher D'Antonio
10/3/2012 12:03:00 pm
Again, in answering the health care question, Romney is being much more forceful and agressive than the President. It is clear that he is the challenger here and trying hard to make his point and show that he is capable of the job.
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Hamza
10/3/2012 12:07:03 pm
Good job Sherloc. No but in all seriousness Romney came into the debate like he had something to prove and its been an hour already and he still isn't honoring the debate properly nor giving the poor old guy respect.
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Cherish Harper
10/3/2012 12:04:06 pm
Earlier in his campaign Romney said that he isnt going to let his campaign be dictated by fact checkers. Now he is say that Obama is manipulating facts.
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Maya
10/3/2012 12:05:11 pm
Obama does very well at responding to Romney's claim about the lack of cooperation between Democrats and Republicans. He says that the health care issue was a Republican idea.
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Gabby
10/3/2012 12:05:35 pm
Romney keeps interrupting. He has no manners and can't follow rules. How can he simply have control over a whole country when he can't follow a simple direction?
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Darcie Dominianni
10/3/2012 12:06:22 pm
Agreed!
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Christopher D'Antonio
10/3/2012 12:07:54 pm
In a Presidential debate the challenger should be aggressive to make his pooint, he must show strong leadership not weakness
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Joshua
10/3/2012 12:10:01 pm
Rather than agressive, he should be passionate about what he believes in. Cutting off/Interrupting the other is rude and shows lack of self control.
Darcie Dominianni
10/3/2012 12:07:34 pm
Did anyone else hear that boom though?
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Eli Medina
10/3/2012 12:08:05 pm
Romney started off very strong! and now his entire argument and everything he's been talking about is falling apart! Now he's starting to second guess himself and he's talking slower and he's doing the suddle uhh thing like he's unsure of what to say. He had a fire and now it's gone!
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Amanda
10/3/2012 12:09:38 pm
Agreed!
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Desiree Skeete
10/3/2012 12:11:56 pm
Romney stares at Obama when its his turn to speak making it seem like hes not connected to the people, Obama seems to be trying to speak to Jim, the host guy, or to the people as he looks toward them instead. Romney seems really passive aggressive as he continuously gives his secret smile than refuses to be cut off.
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Amanda N
10/3/2012 12:13:17 pm
Obama just called Romney out. Romney has all these plans but doesn't really explain them.
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Eli Medina
10/3/2012 12:15:14 pm
I like how on more than one occasion Obama has referred back to past presidents and their principles and uses the good ideas in the past and modernizes them!
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Edward
10/3/2012 12:16:36 pm
Too big to fail. I think that Obama did the right thing in helping those banks because although its not right that we should bail them out, if we dont then more of the middle class would lose out than the government because the amount of money invested from the middle class in these large banks. There is also higher regulation that is added to dodd-frank which is the strongest and most efficient way to get the economy back on track because it insures the banks are working, but also working modestly and not do illegal and stupid transactions that only help their CEO's and investors and hurt the middle class.
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Jessie Maguire
10/3/2012 12:18:05 pm
I'm sorry if this is a stupid question but what is the dodd-frank?
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Joshua
10/3/2012 12:19:29 pm
Hey Jessie, okay so Dodd-Frank is an act stating that the government can regulate and intervene more in Wall Street.
Jessie Maguire
10/3/2012 12:20:46 pm
Thanks so much Josh! That makes a lot more sense now.
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Gabby
10/3/2012 12:17:56 pm
Why does Romney want to pass everything down to the Sates? Isn't that downing himself?
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Edward
10/3/2012 12:24:55 pm
Republicans have a stand point where power should go from the federal government to the state government.
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Joshua
10/3/2012 12:18:04 pm
I didn't know Romney was an actor...
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Julia Sanua
10/3/2012 12:18:37 pm
Romney accused Obamacare of cutting $716 billion from Medicare...when, under Paul Ryan's plan, the exact same amount will be cut from medicare! The exact same amount!
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Jessie Maguire
10/3/2012 12:20:05 pm
I like that Romeny is going along with the Constitution, he is speaking in a clear way. I really agree with his views on keeping up the military.
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Sophie
10/3/2012 12:20:47 pm
I agree with this x10
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Gabby
10/3/2012 12:21:52 pm
I have an urge to go to Colorado and punch this man in the face. His mother should be ashamed for raising such a rude child.
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Nicole
10/3/2012 12:22:18 pm
I'm imagining mr.mills and his comments as they both debate.
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Rayon
10/3/2012 12:23:23 pm
From what i see, Romney has no respect for his peers...imagine him as president
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Amanda
10/3/2012 12:26:39 pm
Agreed! He's very hot-headed. Obama's a people person. He's maintained respect throughout this whole debate even when Romney's been very obnoxious.
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Rayon
10/3/2012 12:34:18 pm
Definitely, everything Obama says is with a very personal approach. Americans feed off that
Gabby
10/3/2012 12:23:59 pm
Mills should debate with us. Hes prob watching us though.
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silah
10/3/2012 12:24:25 pm
Obama" "you've done a great job"
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Amanda
10/3/2012 12:24:34 pm
In regards to education, you're grading schools. How about grading parents? They should be required to do their part in the education of their own children.
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Jessie Maguire
10/3/2012 12:25:37 pm
I agree on this! Parents should be held responsible in the education of their children.
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Nicole
10/3/2012 12:26:42 pm
And in Romneys case regarding his manners, she's failed miserably.
Bianca Oliva
10/3/2012 12:24:59 pm
They're both obviously good public speakers and well versed in rhetoric. They use logos, ethos, and pathos in all their arguments. But for this particular debate, although they're pretty equal, I think Romney's slightly better. He has to come off strong, so for certain parts of the debate he was really compelling. But they both stray from topics on certain points, which is why I sometimes find it hard to keep up with the debate.
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Silah
10/3/2012 12:32:04 pm
i agree, but rhetoric is to persuade someone, while bending the truth sometimes. which is what i was seeing.
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Darcie Dominianni
10/3/2012 12:25:31 pm
I think that Obama's education ideas are stronger because he actually has a plan that limits the interest rates on student loans. Romney said himself that he doesn't want to change the student loans, but Obama seems to want to improve them.
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Anthony Pena
10/3/2012 12:32:00 pm
I agree with your point on Obama's approach. He's actually working towards improving the nation for the general public. Romney is just saying "everything's fine the way it is, let it be." Completely disregarding the issue of student debt.
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Silah
10/3/2012 12:32:50 pm
Yep :)
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Nicole
10/3/2012 12:25:37 pm
Raise your hand if you feel like you've been personally victimized by Mitt Romney.
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Eli Medina
10/3/2012 12:27:04 pm
*raises hand*
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Anthony Pena
10/3/2012 12:26:36 pm
I agree with Obama's idea that we need more teachers, Romney says it should be left up to the states, but we cant be entirely sure states will take the necessary approach. Pushing for more teachers creates more jobs, which reflects back on the economy by creating more jobs and supporting education. An approach through the federal government makes it efficient and organized, increasing possibility for success.
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Joshua
10/3/2012 12:26:46 pm
But why is Romney tooting his own horn so much?
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Gabby
10/3/2012 12:27:23 pm
The fact that Romney is speaking so highly of Massachusetts like its his child. Being a president means maintaining all 50 states not just Massachusetts
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Maya
10/3/2012 12:28:20 pm
But it's the GREAT state of Massachusetts (y)
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Joshua
10/3/2012 12:31:00 pm
lawls <3
Kate
10/3/2012 12:45:26 pm
Lolololololololololol
Iskander
10/3/2012 12:28:42 pm
Romney wants to pump up the military?! Around 683.7 billion was spent on military in 2009, and that total is just increasing.Romney says he wants to do more for the teachers and schools how about cutting down the military and use a few of those billions to be invested into new schools. Like Obama said we need more specialized people and that will result to bringing in more jobs. Im interested in Obama's view on the military as well though
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Julia Sanua
10/3/2012 12:31:00 pm
Agreed. If there's one thing we don't need, it's more military spending. If we took those trillions of dollars and put them into education instead of instituting "grades" like Romney says, things might actually get done.
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Siilah
10/3/2012 12:35:07 pm
i second that! the military doesn't even ask for more money, yet he wants to add more.
Mr. Mills
10/3/2012 12:29:31 pm
I am impressed by you all. Keep up the comments and don't forget to prove them with evidence. And don't forget TEACHERS, TEACHERS or TEACHERS.
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Amanda
10/3/2012 12:29:47 pm
We want people in office that respect natural law. Obama radiates that respect whereas Romney keeps talking about the states and his state and how it's so superior. It just doesn't seem that he has the best future in mind for all of the people, especially for our generation. He uses his state as an example much too often. It makes me feel like not all of the people's best interests are his main concern.
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Aneesa
10/3/2012 12:31:41 pm
Mitt Romney is just full of talk right now. he's saying he's going to fix all of these things but he never said how once.
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Sophie
10/3/2012 12:32:45 pm
When Obama talks about how when we were in a crisis 4 years ago....WE STILL ARE IN A CRISIS. This economy man...
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Edward
10/3/2012 12:44:02 pm
we're in a slow movement out of a crisis, but we are out of it. Obama saw a huge crisis in the beginning and it took two years to stitch up what the housing crisis created with Dodd Frank and other legislation. Now his fruits of labor will show with the increase of jobs. It would be better to have a slow movement to normalcy than a big one because than we get too arrogant and think we're okay and so go back to their crazy ways. I think Obama's term will be a big part of what causes this country to gain control of itself; however, I tihnk he should follow some of Romney's ideas and close deductions, also with Jessie's point with the rich being attacked, I think that we need to lower corporate tax, so that business can open up in America and to keep them here, but we need to raise taxes on the top 3% of companies because many of them are using the opportunity to go abroad to get away from taxation. If we can at least keep companies in America we can gain from them the advantages they gain from being from America.
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Edward
10/3/2012 12:32:52 pm
I think Romney has a nicer suite than Obama.
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Iskander
10/3/2012 12:35:33 pm
No way man! Jim is simply radiating!
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Amanda N/
10/3/2012 12:42:14 pm
AGREED.
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Desiree
10/3/2012 12:33:06 pm
Both closings I found were pretty well done, however this Romney character barely explains the way he plans to do things by speking around it or going against what he earlier said. Obama's closing came out humble and not as arragant as I found Romney's
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Jessie Maguire
10/3/2012 12:35:21 pm
I like that Obama thanked everyone. It humbled him and seemed sincere.
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Joshua
10/3/2012 12:44:45 pm
I agree whole-heartedly with both of you! I think that by humbling himself, Obama showed that just because he is the president, he is not superior to everyone else, unlike Romney. The fact that Obama actually thanked people, shows that he knows that he gets his support from the public.
Anonymous
10/3/2012 12:34:58 pm
Both of these guys are jokes. JILL STEIN 2012!
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Aneesa
10/3/2012 12:35:26 pm
People in other countries study Obama's speeches Sophie. Romney is not better at giving speeches at all. And that is irrelevant to the solutions.We are in a crisis solely because of the Bush administration. Obama is making progress.
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Edward
10/3/2012 12:47:19 pm
I tinhk Romney is a good speaker because he talks to the people and their emotions, but also has ideas that are strong and can make a difference. I also think the mess should not be on Bush, but on Clinton the most. Clinton has imposed many changes that deregulated the economy that completely caused arrogance in the housing market. Bush didn't stop it, but tried to help it and cannot be blamed for the crisis. He was just there at the wrong time.
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Aneesa
10/3/2012 12:54:51 pm
He does appeal to people's emotions. But a lot of the things he says are only 50% true. And how can Clinton be blamed for the economy? He left the country in a huge surplus and the Bush administration is what caused us to go into this huge deficit.
Amanda N
10/3/2012 12:36:01 pm
I don't understand how is Romney planning to increase jobs/income and not cut funding if he is lower taxes at the same time. Where will he get all the extra money from?
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Gabby
10/3/2012 12:36:51 pm
I dislike that Romney assumes he will be the president. uh elections didnt occur yet. he doesnt know
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Silah
10/3/2012 12:37:30 pm
I'm pro-democrats & after the Bushes I don't know how much I would trust our government in the hands of another Republican..
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Gabby
10/3/2012 12:37:47 pm
Now back to hw#7=)
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Joshua
10/3/2012 12:39:56 pm
Imagine?
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Eli Medina
10/3/2012 12:39:15 pm
In Obama's closing argument I felt he was very natural and he seemed like he would honestly try. Romney purposely chose to go last so that he can bash Obama's last speech. Obama spent his two minutes addressing the problems and how he would fix them. So far Romney just criticized everything Obama just said. Romney in my opinion lost this debate because he started off good and as the debate went on he lost his fuel and he ended soft and almost bad. Obama did the opposite and he started off very soft and he ended strong. Overall the debate was very informative. Romney has to try and sound confident because he isn't in the lead. Obama was allowed to be calm because he is in the lead. Obama made great point throughout his debates. Romney sounded a bit rude and stand offish
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Desiree
10/3/2012 12:44:12 pm
Couldn't agree more :)
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Anthony Pena
10/3/2012 12:53:00 pm
Its like Romney just wants to hurt Obama's image and make him look like the worst possible choice
Lukas
10/3/2012 12:40:12 pm
I thought Romney was quite consistent, but there's no such thing as clean coal, America doesn't have the best health care records in the world by far and healthcare should not be a private business, it should be a universal, single payer system. Healthcare should be a right, unlike what Romney said in that video that there are people who mooch of the government and think that they're entitled to it. Yes. We should be entitled to it.
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Iskander
10/3/2012 12:47:26 pm
Definitely. I'm against excessive coal use and certainly American could figure out how to make millions of jobs without having to reserve to this primitive energy.
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Hamza
10/3/2012 12:40:24 pm
Im not in favor of Romneys military spending idea. He wants to keep the military "strong"? Their are U.S troops stationed in over 150 different countries, over 60 different countries with U.S military bases in them(their are more bases abroad then their are in the U.S). How strong do these guys want our military to be?
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Iskander
10/3/2012 12:51:35 pm
We we will be as great as the Roman Empire, oh wait..... I think they couldn't afford all the standing soldiers and collapsed on themselves.
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Anthony Pena
10/3/2012 12:43:40 pm
Romney couldn't wait to talk, honestly all his interrupting bothered me a bit. He seem's like a really impatient person, if he can't control himself enough to have a bit of respect towards Obama and poor Jim, how do we know he can handle himself in office? Especially after saying he wants to sit down on the very first day and talk things through with everyone. Obama's method was stronger, the point was made that Obama didn't make eye contact with Romney, but I think he wanted to direct his answers towards the nation, rather than use them as a defense for himself. This could give off a pretty strong message.
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Christopher C
10/3/2012 12:49:25 pm
I agree with you, Romney keeps rambling but show no evidence of how he is going to improve our nation
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Julia Sanua
10/3/2012 12:44:18 pm
I'll be completely honest. I know we we're supposed to be evaluating their arguments, but I honestly don't feel as if I'm educated enough about any of these topics to make statements I am truly confident about.
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Sandra
10/3/2012 12:53:08 pm
On the topic of education, I'm happy that both candidates are very concerned about it- that both believe the Race To the Top Program will help to improve the quality of education along with the other programs that they want to implement. I agree with Obama that education is dependent on money and the economy which is why they ought to solve that problem first. Nice to know that the great state of Massachusett has such a great education system though. I hope that if Romney is elected, he will try to improve education for not only the state he's representing, but for all states. Not saying that Obama's stance on education is bad or anything.. but Romney is tooting his own horn. Hooray for Obama for wanting to invest in education (and his passion for research as well)- he's got my nonexistent vote!
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Iskander
10/3/2012 12:58:32 pm
Agree putting attention on education is great, but Romney's understanding of being energy independent is making more jobs for coal companies thus still making us coal dependent.
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Sandra
10/3/2012 01:04:51 pm
That's a good point you make and it would be very interesting to see how Romney plans to pull through with that :-) but that utopian idea does sound great.
Christopher C
10/3/2012 01:05:27 pm
I have to agree with Romney that raising the taxes on business owners won't do the nation any good, business owners would just fire workers or raise the prices of good to keep their profits. In the end, it will be the middle class or the poor class that suffers the most.
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eva
10/3/2012 01:22:44 pm
I agree that it's good the candidates are concerned about the education. I think it's important that they place emphasis on math and science education, like Obama said. The U.s seems to be a bit behind and budget cuts in each state are not helping.
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Kadaja B
10/3/2012 01:01:55 pm
Unfortunately, Romney was stronger in his debate tonight, because he was more specific in his speeches: he presented proposals on how to improve the nation from what it is now, and made sure he stated how these proposals will come into effect. It was also stronger because, at times when Obama finish talking I had no idea what his point was and then Romney use the method of going straight to the point.
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Aneesa
10/3/2012 01:10:35 pm
I see what you're saying Kadaja because he was extremely aggressive and he was really trying to get his point across. (Even though a lot of them are just bulls**t and lies).
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Joshua
10/3/2012 01:07:26 pm
Was it just me, or was Obama too nice to Romney? There were so many things that Obama could have used on Romney, but he didn't. He didn't really bring up the 47% issue, which he totes could have used. I think he was more focused upon answering the questions Jim asked rather than Romney, who spent most of his time attacking Obama. Nonetheless, although Romney's voice is better to hear, the fact of the matter is, that Obama mostly gave clear responses about the action and plans he was going to take on if he was re-elected. Romney however, just jumped all over the place, he was passionate at first, but then it dropped to show a more agressive demeanor, which, to be honest, I do not want to run the country. He didn't give any specific details about the action he would take if elected, which worries me a bit because how is the public supposed to know what Romney is going to brew in office? What worries me the most, is that because Romney wasn't clear on his responses, he can just do the unexpected.
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Kate
10/3/2012 01:23:32 pm
It would be extremely unprofessional if Obama brought up Romney's 47% comment. It would have definitely hurt both of them.
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Joshua
10/3/2012 01:09:38 pm
Also, that awks moment where Jim is from PBS and Romney plans to cut PBS.
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Sandra
10/3/2012 01:13:24 pm
LOL, right? I love PBS.
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Kate
10/3/2012 01:10:19 pm
Regardless of my political opinions, I feel like this debate completely changed the direction of the campaign.
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JimBob williams
10/3/2012 01:12:45 pm
Hi, I don't go to to yall school, but I enjoyed reading your comments. ;)
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Adnan Garrett
10/3/2012 01:15:26 pm
I think Obama is a good President.
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JimBob williams
10/3/2012 01:18:51 pm
I think that as well little boy.
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Jim Lehrer
10/3/2012 01:26:50 pm
Those two were so rude to me. :(
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Joshua
10/3/2012 01:30:02 pm
It was actually mostly Romney, in fact if not only Romney.
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johnBoxchino
10/3/2012 02:08:49 pm
Obama, is correct i. Terms of healthcare, one sixth of the U.S. population is dependent upon obamacare. If obamacare was to be repealed then 50 million U.S. Citizens would have to give up their life insurance and have to find another source, most of them would not be able to find another source because they are in a poor financial state due to their reliance on obamacare.
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Ms. Albu
10/3/2012 02:21:18 pm
Wow. Fantastic insights! You should have your own shows.
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10/4/2012 10:09:28 am
Haha wow! i agree! very talented young woman and boys! ms albu you are a genius! i do not go to this school but i would love you as a teacher :) perhaps one day we can meet.. for it will be in my dreams. shalom
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Odellya Sohnis
10/3/2012 03:20:02 pm
I couldn't get to the computer earlier, so here's my stance:
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