I feel that Roy Moore is going to win.He has the religion, and the ideology of most of the poeple in Alabama.
I agree with you. But all of the horrific things he’s accused of might of swayed some voters to vote against him.
I agree with you on that point, but i think even that wont change his possiblity of winning because sometimes it takes more than that to change someones vote to go to the other person (which is a shame). You'd think that someone being accused of this would definitely not win. But in this day and age LITERALLY anything can happen.
I somewhat agree because right now Jones is currently ahead (although its just the beginning.) Also CNN took a poll asking how important the sexual allegations were to voters and 58% said that it wasn't important to the election
Not only that ,but most of the citizens in Alabama are conservatives! To me a liberal to win Senate in Alabama is probably a miracle (or a suprise)
I agree with this but the sexual assault issue may make more independent leaning republicans vote against him.
I agree with Taylor, the accusations and scandal behind this vote are likely to tip scales. In an election without this scandal behind it, the ratio of republican to democratic voters in a state like Alabama would probably be 80% to 20%. Now, the election is close because the morals of the people are involved.
do you agree with me ? lol
If Roy Moore wins, it will show that in Alabama tribalism rules the state.
Not nessiscarily, could also show the importance of the wedge issues such as abortion and how divided the nation is on them.
The only reason Trump is pushing for Roy Moore to win is because he knows Roy Moore would vote for all of his agenda items.
If you think about it Trump and Roy are really not all that different lol so for Trump to be supporting Roy(a conservative), makes sense.
To answer number three, the results of this election is important because it would bring out Alabama's true colors.It would show who they believe was fit to be senator in their eyes.And it would show through the ideology of the senator, that its as well their ideology too.
Just looking a CNN the voter turnout was predictable in terms of white voters
CNN states that this is a great black voter turnout compared to other elections
With that poll, 55% of people think that his allegations aren’t important at all. He might actually win just because he’s a republican
Shown by these demographics is the under-representation of minorities, as the majority of voters are white. Knowing that midterm elections are known for their low voter turnout also shows how little representation this election is highlighting, because this 65% of whites is out of a small amount of voters who are passionate and extreme enough to feel propelled to vote in this controversial election. (this is addressing the first question)
Doug Jones went out campaigning before the election in the heart of African American voters in Selma, Alabama where he knew that he could gain many democratic based voters. This was possible because of a combination of his personal appeal and his ideology
I have a question. Does anyone think that if Roy Moore gets elected, the Republican Party will unseat him? (From CNN) I don’t think the Republican Party would do this.
I mean if he wins, we know who put him there, so I don’t think they’ll unseat him. I agree with you on that. But they may change their mind, maybe with how he goes about getting his policy’s pulled through
I think if there is enough pressure being put on the Senate by the people than the Party might do it, not because they are against it, but because they want to save their reputations.
if Roy Moore does win then one can conclude that voting in the south isn't necessarily about the person but the party since republican belief aligns with majority. Clearly if it was about the person almost no one would vote and elect Roy to congress, someone who potentially may sexually assaulted multiple women.
I agree with you and this shows tribalism at its best (or it’s worse)
I somewhat disagree because if Moore does win, it could be because people don't believe the sexual assault allegations, or see them as something they can overlook. They could still like Moore as a candidate.
I disagree because I feel like if Moore wins its because people don't like Jones at all. Its similar to what we saw in the 2016 election, people voted for trump not because of his beliefs but because they simply didn't like Hilary. Although if he won it would support republican beliefs, CNN says that he is performing much lower than other Republicans that ran before him in other elections. So clearly people don't really like him that much but the don't like Jones even more.
I believe that voters swayed from a republican vote to a democratic vote because of Doug Jones's ideology rather than his personal appeal, but on the other hand I believe that voters didnt want to vote for Roy Moore because of his personal appeal, hence his previous issues with sexual harassment.
If Moore wins, it is going to be obvious that the majority of voters were Republicans who are white, male, and less educated, but if Jones wins, it gets slightly more complicated because it is not clear whether more Democrats turned out to vote or more people voted for him simply to vote against Moore.
I think if Jones wins, the majority of his voters are going to be the complete opposite of Moore’s. Even if people did vote for Jones to go against Moore, the voter turnout in blacks, hopefully would be great.
well as it was said in CBS news Moore is performing poorly compare to other republicans. In cities where a republican would normally gain 65% of the vote Moore is only able to pull 50%
The results are going to have a large effect on politics in the Senate because adding another Republican could change everything. With the recent tax bill that was passed, it was split almost exactly party. 52 Republicans voted for it, and 48 Democrats voted against it. If there is another Republican put in the Senate, similar bills have way more potential to be passed. If the Jones wins this seat, the Democrats could make it 51 to 49 in the Senate, meaning they would only need one Republican on their side to help go against future bills. Also, if Moore wins, that is essentially saying that the state of Alabama does not care about his sexual assault allegations. They are saying that that is something that can be put aside, and it does not matter as much as his views or party. That can also have a large effect on how the rest of the country views sexual assault. It could even make people feel that they can’t come out with their sexual assault stories because it clearly is not something that matters to the leaders of our country.
I agree! This election is very weighted in terms of party influence within legislation. The next Senator of Alabama that comes out of this race is going to determine the direction of legislation, which could either semi-
balance out the ratio of Republicans to Democrats in the Senate or sway the Senate towards Republican ideology with the more Republican elected officials.
Addressing the question of how this influences issues important to me, it is clear that this election is very heavily based on personality as opposed to partisanship. In some ways, we can see this progression away from party loyalty as a positive because it indicates more of a political lense rather than an ignorant lense that votes solely based on party identification. In the case of this Alabama election, the ideologies that Jones carries (such as pro-abortion) is a huge indicator to many southern republicans that he is not fit to be a senator for them because they are against such ideals. This is one of the Republicans main points against Jones as a candidate. Similarly, Democrats have held their stance against Moore for reasons associated with his personal values and beliefs, as he is an accused sexual offender of many women. These are both important issues to address, and by associating such controversy and debate over these two candidates, there is more awareness about what the government will dictate they support through the appointment of either candidate.
Regarding the third question, I feel like if Jones wins its going to be even harder for major issues (like abortion laws, gun control, and lgbtq issues) to be addressed in Congress. Sine the Senate will be almost even, the issues will just be a back and forth and if the vice president has to step in and be the tie breaker, it will lean in the Republicans favor. If Moore does win then it will be harder in the sense that Republicans won't really pass anything liberal related. Democrats will be outvoted so these issues won't be addressed and if they are addressed, it won't have a positive outcome.
But if Jones wins, having one more Democrat in the Senate has the potential to stop a lot of the bills that Trump is attempting to pass. Even though it is possible that it could be harder for major issues to be addressed since it will be closer to the same number of Senators for each party, that is also a positive effect of Jones winning, because then we, as citizens, can be sure that the Senate is really balanced in terms of party and views. Also, even though there would be more balance between Democrats and Republicans, there is an increasing amount of Republicans that have began to vote against Republican issues because of their distrust of Trump.
I disagree, I think that issues will be address but the bills/actions that result with be more moderate because of the split. In order to pass anything there would need to be more of a compromise which can take longer but prove to be more long lasting/what the people want.
For the first question, an important piece of this is that write in votes are higher than ever before (currently 1.1%), which favors Doug Jones because most write in votes are coming from Republicans who don't want Roy Moore because of the allegations but still want Republican in the Senate.
I think the results will really show us which candidate was able to mobilize/resonate with the most voters as turnout is usually low during midterm/special elections. Only voters who feel really passionately will vote.I agree with everyone else that who wins will either strengthen the republican stronghold in Congress or change the dynamic in the Senate.
According to the polls on cnn it shows this election is based on partisanship with many choosing Jones due to Moore being a sexual offender while others believing he’s not.
If Moore wins, it shows that not only states are partisan but citizens are partisan as well because they choose the candidate from their party without looking at the positives and negatives of the candidate.
I️ agree with your statement. However, it is a very close election and numbers vary in seconds. If you look at previous elections, overall the state of Alabama is always shown to be republican. Therefore, if Jones was to win it will be such a drastic change. Point being, Alabama is composed of mostly white evangelist republicans which means there’s a higher chance of Moore wining. To add on, it seems like people don’t care of the accusations made because they were never really proven. Therefore, it’ll be convenient that these white repueblicans stay home and more college students as well as educated women go out and vote for Doug Jones
So Naika you stole my answer ? lol
The results will show that christians, evangelicals and older citizens mostly participated in the election.
i agree but i think that would be because of roy moore
"One more thing," Santorum added. "The fact Roy Moore was accused of these things that happened 40 years ago, evangelical voters are saying, we look at the man since then, and he has lived what seems to be great life."
Regarding question number three, I think the results will prove once again that photo identification laws are an issue for elections. Rachel Maddow was explaining that over 100,000 minorities in Alabama were not able to vote due to not having the proper documentation. Doug Jones was relying heavily on an African-American and Hispanic Democratic turnout for the race. So truly, the voter turnout rates can never be trusted because those 100,000 or more, votes could have made a strong impact on the results. Photo Identification laws are used more as barriers against Democratic voters to keep them from voting.
I totally agree. A New York times article said that after Alabama implemented its strict voter ID law, turnout in its most racially diverse counties declined by almost 5 percentage points, which is even more than the drop in diverse counties in other states. "In Alabama, an estimated 118,000 registered voters do not have a photo ID they can use to vote. Black and Latino voters are nearly twice as likely as white voters to lack such documentation."
Agree! It is also not much of a surprise that Alabama enforces photo ID laws, being a Southern state. The effects of photo ID laws, mainly being voter suppression, are clear. The fact that the voters being suppressed are minorities is something that many southern states probably wouldn't care too much about. The disenfranchisement of these minority voters is almost sure to affect Jones's results in the polls.
I totally agree with this point. Voter ID laws have become a burden on voters who really count when it comes to tight elections like this. Republicans know this and that why they have no problem with continuing to disenfranchise minority voters
For question three, if Roy Moore wins then this shows that as more people in the Senate go Republic or someone who is like Moore then abortion being legal can change and gay rights will be hindered.
I disagree with the idea that the gay right will be hindered, because the Supreme Court has already ruled that gay people can marry and Senate cannot limit their rights.
If Roy Moore will be elected to office it will show us that many Christian white people, who do not care if Moore abused non-adults, went to vote. On the other Hand, If Doug Jones will get elected to office it will show us that many minority groups voted, and many people could not stand the thought that a possible abuser will govern them for the next two years.
The Results of this special election are going to have a significant influence on the future government of Alabama. If Moore will get elected, the 48/52 split will stay, and the republicans will still have the majority in the Senate. However, if Jones will become elected, the split will change to a 49/51 one. That means that almost the whole Grand Old Party must be in Senate and must vote equal to defend or pass a bill.
By the way, FOX News show that Moore has 53,2% at 9:45. 65% of the votes are in.
I agree and disagree. Although I see your point about voters for Moore being primarily Christian and white, I believe that party loyalty may play a part in the election. Registered republican voters are bound to vote for Moore.
The results will most likely reveal a low percentage of voters, as this is a special election. Those who are voting are likely to be more extreme/ passionate in their views.
As for parties and politics in the Senate and nation, this decision has the potential to create a shift in future decisions and lawmaking. The result of this election can either tip scales in the senate to make it easier for democratic bills to be passed, or it can further the republican stronghold in the Senate.
Personally, the idea that Moore would win considering the allegations he is facing is disgusting. Although I understand demographics, and the likeliness of primarily republican voters in the South, I do hope that the circumstances will sway the opinions of voters to reflect their morals.
For question one, the results will tell us that mostly white, Christian, evangelical people turned out to vote for this election. The results will also show that Moore’s voters were more passionate about his values on abortions and were willing to overlook his scandals, as something that happened in the past, in order to keep Alabama red.
I agree with you. If Moore wins then this can show how people are overlooking his scandals and willing to vote him based on him just being a Republican to just to keep the state Republican.
Which is truly disgusting (honestly!). However, at the same time you could argue that his voters are more in favor if him as a person because many of the values that he supports, is well known in the south. Still doesn't justify it.
I agree with you, scandals usually have a highly negative affect on a candidate's chances to be elected, so if Moore had won, it would show that Republicans are willing to put morals aside for the sake of the party.
One concern I have, kind of in regard to question3, is the separation of church and state which Moore has shown he is against. Favoring "moral law"
As for the third Question, I believe in equal rights for every single person. For Example, Matt Lauer, a journalist, got fired from his job with NBC because he sexual harassed women. Now we have the case Moore. This person, who is a judge, is suspected to having abused teenagers, just like us. That this person is able to run for Senate is ridiculous. Of course, it is not assured yet if he actually did it but he should be banned from any political elections until he is considered innocent.
I agree with you, I feel that if it was a democratic candidate who was accused, there would be repercussions unlike Moore. The society that we live in is very unfair, and not everyone is treated equally, whether it is based on race, color, sexual preference, gender, or religion. For how the election results affect my personal beliefs, I am hoping that the Democrats gain Senate majority and abortion is kept legal. I also am looking for Democrats to bring back Obama Care, in some way shape or form, basically just affordable health care that is available for everyone.
For the second question, if Moore was to win then the Republicans would have a better chance of their bills to be passed in the Senate but if Jones was to win then there would be more of an even chance between the two parties and the Democratic Party might be able to get some of their policies passed or block republican policies to be passed.
to answer question one , white male christian evangelicals with a lower education would have the most voter turnouts(mostly)
CANDIDATE PARTY VOTES PCT.
Rep. 529,104 49.2%
Dem. 528,664 49.2
It is getting very, very close according to the NY Times...
I actually didn't think that it would get this close I thought that even though he did what he did Moore would've been up by at least 10 points off the strength of him hitting all the boxes that the normal republican voters like. But jones looks like he could actually do this
I agree with you. I thought that Moore would win because Alabama always votes conservative but according to FOX news Jones just won the election.
For Question two; the results will reveal Alabama’s strong partisanship for the republican because 60% of the typical republican voter has been estimated for the turnout. As for the senate, the results will give republicans more power in the senate to pass bills of their values that oppose democratic ideas. As for the nation, the entire government would be in favor of republicans because they would have the most members in the House of Representatives and the most in the senate. Also, currently five out of the nine supreme court justices have been appointed by republican presidents and the executive branch is republican.
And to answer question two, i believe that the results will possibly mean that people mainly voted in full partisanship or based off of a candidates ideology or what the candidate is trying to sell (offer) to the people.
(please correct me if i am wrong)
I agree and disagree because yes, his values are of course deeply rooted in Alabama and majority of his voters did turnout because of his position on certain ideas. However, I also disagree because now (like now) the votes are so close and Jones may have the possibility to win. The results may prove that people whether they were loyal to a party or not were not willing to elect a candidate with such allegations hanging over his head.
CANDIDATE PARTY VOTES PCT.
Dem. 576,204 49.6%
Rep. 567,888 48.8
As for question two, if Moore does win it’ll make laws easier to be passed in favor of the Republican Party while as for Jones the Democratic Party could have more of a say In blocking or rejecting certain bills having a more favorable number between the two.
oh snap Jones is bagging this! pretty cool..lets see what happens next
Really shocked that he won.....Im not complaining though
Honestly, this win is what we needed. After Trump won the presidency, this is our new glimmer of hope.
Doug Jones won!! He turned a crazy republican state blue.
To answer some of #3(What will / do the results mean for the issues (in government / politics) that are important to you?)
For one this election will show what voters really focus on when casting their ballot. Although I do agree with the fact that elections have diverged from the issues in government, I do believe that the candidates character plays a significant role in how he/she conducts themselves once they get their position...
Doug Jones wins a nailbitter !
So my homeboy (doug) won :) This goes to show that Democrats can win an election by playing somewhat fair .....
Doug Jones won!!!
ok good night guys.
miracles can happen!
Doug Jones Defeats Roy Moore to Trim G.O.P. Majority to 1
By THE NEW YORK TIMES 8:51 PM ET
Mr. Jones and the Democrats were able to capitalize on sexual misconduct accusations against Mr. Moore to pull out a rare victory in a staunchly Republican state.
The race captivated the nation, not only for its debates over party loyalty and morality, but also for its also immense implications for both parties and the Trump presidency.
It's amazing how at the last minute, he just took the lead and won.
To answer question 2, it will be interesting to how this election effects how senate republicans vote. If the republican to democrat ratio changes from 52:48 to 51:49, will this cause more republicans to vote on bills purely out of partisanship? (Also if Jones win's I can only imagine what the presidents twitter will look like tonight)
1. What do the results tell us about the who turned out to vote?
2. What do the results mean for parties and politics in the Senate and the nation?
3. What do the results mean for the issues (in government / politics) that are important to you?
Look at this to have a good laugh! (throwback)
that was a phenomenal election still in a state of shock though and as for the issue in government regarding abortion this result may foreshadow that pro abortion might fortunately prevail in the south
1.What do the results tell us about the who turned out to vote?
This election brought out a pretty good size amount of minority voters especially the African American population. CNN reports that 96% of African American voters voted for Doug and that 53% of the votes for Doug came from voters ages 18-64. It seems that most of the votes came from younger African American voters
2. What do the results mean for parties and politics in the Senate and the nation?
Political parties are now faced with the question of loyalty in my opinion. Those who usually vote republican might have been swayed by this election to go another route.
This election shows that
3. What do the results mean for the issues (in government / politics) that are important to you?
I find that this election is a step in the right direction in terms of making sure that the "social rights" (abortion, gay marriage, etc) put in placed and found constitutionally sound by the supreme court remain the same.
1) What do the results tell us about the who turned out to vote?
It showed us that the minority voter had a higher voter turnout than the white voters. Also since we know that this election was a special election, more people took interest which heavily influenced voter turnout in a positive way.
2.) What do the results mean for parties and politics in the Senate and the nation?
This means that there is a shift going on with the way people are voting. People are now voting based on the personality of the candidate rather than the policies. Now the parties are going to put out people who are more appealing to voters rather than the true beliefs of the party. For the senate this affects the way they vote since the senate is now 49-51 (Dem-Rep)which means that there will be a tougher time for each of the parties to push their agendas and get certain bills passed.
The results tell us that a huge amount of minority voters turned out in this election who were passionate enough to gain a democratic senator in a ruby red state. Doug Jones spent time campaigning in Selma, Alabama before the election aiming to turn out the African American voters who made up the bulk of the states democratic base. In order for Doug Jones to gain victory he will need votes in black, urban and suburban white voters.
In this election, Jones’s election showed how passionate and enthusiastic the Democratic party was with the help of a swing of republican voters to Democrats among well educated suburban voters. Jones’s victory will reshape the Senate where the republican majority will shrink. Jones emphasized jobs, healthcare and his point that “women are every bit capable as men.” All together, this will shift Alabama to a more democratic state, slowly having an affect on the nation and on president trump. This was a loss for Roy Moore and President Trump. This election sends a message to various communities that have been denounced by republican candidates such as LGBT communities, etc.
To answer the second question, the results have started the journey of shifting the power dynamic within Congress. Republicans are currently the majority in the senate and the Democrats have an opportunity to gain 3 more seats, therefore swaying the power dynamic in their favor. The Democratic win in Alabama makes the journey of winning a Senate majority a little less difficult. This will cause every Senate election to be more intense and voter turnout/ participation will be even more vital.
To answer the first question, the results show that the democratic party had a larger voter turnout than the republican party. Based on what we know about what the typical democrat looks like, I think it's fair to say that a large amount of minorities turned out to vote.
I feel that he is targeting more of the Democratic Party because they stand with more of the lower income/middle class Americans. He kept stressing advancements for the middle class. He says how the first 24k by a family will be tax free, how Hispanic and African American unemployment is at all time low, and has reformed tax cuts. Although some things he said might've been a little offensive like "Americans are dreamers" so whats up with the Dreamers we all know?
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